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Post  roddie Mon Apr 08, 2024 10:13 pm

Clapping Clapping It's so good to see you give life to the sad little engine. He is not sad anymore.. Very Happy
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Post  GallopingGhostler Wed Apr 10, 2024 12:10 am

¡Bravo!, excelente, Mauricio, las rotaciones del motor de 15,500 por minuto son músicas en mis orejas. Very Happy
Bravo! Excellent, Mauricio, the engine rotations of 15,500 per minute are music in my ears. Thumbs Up

También, tu obra dura muestra que el motor ahora parece muy hermoso, ¡perfecto!
Also, your hard work shows that the engine now looks very beautiful, perfect!
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Post  Kim Wed Apr 10, 2024 3:48 am

YEAH BOY!!!!!!!!!!!!!

It's great to see some "Wen Mac Love" !!!!!!

Congrats and Bravo!!!!!!!!!!!
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Post  getback Wed Apr 10, 2024 5:43 am

Fantastic !! Very good work and the engine sounds GREAT , good RPMs with the 5x3 prop .. The lathe is your Friend and you have got using it down path . Very happy for you to revive this piece of history ! cheers Thumbs Up
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Post  rdw777 Wed Apr 10, 2024 5:45 am

The engine runs strong and steady Mauricio!!!…. The repairs are tastefully made…. Always nice to see and hear one perform after repairs and rebuild…..Excellent work friend Very Happy
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Post  davidll1984 Wed Apr 10, 2024 7:01 am

Once again great work the engine seems to work well I like what you did with this engine the modification of the engine crankcase and the manufacturing of the neadle valve beautiful work friend RC Plane Thumbs Up You could perhaps make the restrictor ring out of aluminum with cooling purposes ading fins Could help. the drawing suggests making it in two pieces the system seems perfect and I can't wait to see the final result
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Post  MauricioB Sat Apr 13, 2024 1:46 am

Thanks guys!
Finally I made the acceleration ring....
..you can see it here:

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Post  GallopingGhostler Sat Apr 13, 2024 6:15 am

¡Mauricio, tu creación, el carburador de escape está funcionando perfectamente! Thumbs Up
Mauricio, your creation, the exhaust carburetor is working perfectly!

Tu obra dura ha dado los frutos buenos. ¡Felicidades! Very Happy
Your hard work has born good fruit. Congratulations!

Creo que tu amigo estará disfrutarlo mucho.  Hand Shake
I think that your friend will be enjoying it a lot.
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Post  roddie Sat Apr 13, 2024 7:28 am

Good work Mauricio! Thumbs Up Nice to have throttle control on a small engine. It makes a much more scale-like experience for a small airplane.. and you can "land" before running out of fuel.. or if something needs adjustment on a maiden flight.
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Post  davidll1984 Sat Apr 13, 2024 7:29 am

It's great, this engine is now unique, a special rc Wenmac. A special craftsmanship by Mauricio. Friend you should put a signature on the engines you modify Thumbs Up
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Post  MauricioB Sat Apr 13, 2024 12:18 pm

I'm very glad you like the work.
It really was a whole process where the engine accompanied the work at all times.
What do I mean? That the Wen-Mac engine seems to collaborate at all times to get it working again. All steps were direct and with good results. The engine, its own soul, had every desire to run again.
The connection that exists between the operator (in my case) and the rescue of these irons (engines) is very special, each one has a story behind it and I think they deserve the opportunity when one can dedicate a little aeromodelling affection to them.
There the result, it seems that everything is going well. Maybe I should make some more spray bars in the future and test, but in general terms the engine is already available to fly a model suitable for it.
Thank you to everyone who contributed information, since without that information it is impossible to plan a job.
Cox Engines Forum is a school for me, where its very supportive members transmit their knowledge and we all learn.
Remember: What someone contributes here, somewhere in the world an engine will work again. That's thanks to you!....Long Live CEF!

Me alegro mucho les guste el trabajo.
Realmente fue todo un proceso en donde en todo momento el motor acompaño la obra.
Que quiero decir?, que el motor Wen-Mac parese colaborar en todo momento para volver a funcionar. Todos los pasos fueron directo y con buenos resultados. El motor su propia alma tenia todas las ganas de volver a funcionar.
La conección que se da entre el operador (en mi caso) y el rescate de estos fierros (motores) es muy especial, cada uno tiene una historia por detras y creo que merecen la oportunidad cuando uno puede dedicarles un poco de cariño aeromodelista.
Allí el resultado, parese que todo va bien. Quizás debo hacer algunos spray bar más en el futuro y probar, pero en líneas generales el motor ya esta disponible para hacer volar un modelo adecuado para él.
Gracias s todos los que colaboraron con información, ya que sin esa información es imposible poder proyectar un trabajo.
Cox Engines Forum, es una escuela para mí, donde sus integrantes muy solidarios transmiten su conocimiento y todos aprendemos.
Recuerden: Lo que alquien aporta aquí, en algun lugar del mundo un motor funcionará de nuevo. Eso es gracias a Ustedes!....Larga Vida a CEF!
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Post  MauricioB Sat Apr 13, 2024 10:33 pm

I want to ask you the following:
What do you consider to be the best pressure measurement?
A or B?? Huh...
(to send pressure to the fuel tank)
I understand that B would be the appropriate place, but many use point A.
So what exactly is the right place if you know it?... Thanks!

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Post  GallopingGhostler Sat Apr 13, 2024 11:31 pm

Mi presentimiento es, porque el volumen interno es muy pequeño y el motor tiene pequeño poder, lo quizá más problema que marece la pena el esfuerzo. Los motores más grandes son menos sensitivos. No obstante, esa es mi opinión.

My hunch is, because the internal volume is very small and the motor has little power, it is perhaps more of a problem than worth the effort. Larger motors are less sensitive. However, that is my opinion.
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Post  F4D Phantom II Sun Apr 14, 2024 9:38 am

Hello Mauricio
                          I think that installing a pressure fitting on the backplate would be the easiest since the crankcase casting is real thin on the B point you mention. I haven`t used pressure with a throttle ring so I think that trying to run the engine at low RPM will be a problem due to excess fuel. I have a Fuji.05 that I reworked and to add a pressure fitting I used JB weld And placed in the exhaust side a small aluminum disc that I drilled and tapped for a 3mm pressure fitting. It worked real good as I had made a radial mount and placing the fitting on the back would not work for me. I got the engine to turn over 25K rpm with open exhasut. Here is a picture where you can see the fitting installation.
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Post  MauricioB Sun Apr 14, 2024 12:32 pm

Thank you Jorge for your appreciation, really worth taking into account.
Juan, thanks for the sample, the Fuji .05 is a beautiful engine!!
This Wen-Mac .049 engine, since its original state, has changed absolutely, so it is a good element to experiment with, I think that placing a pressurizer nozzle in the cylinder head will not be a problem, since it has a threaded anchor to It will surely support a fuel tank, so I can place a spout there and in any case if it does not add to the operation of the engine, I can place a screw neatly as a cap.
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Post  rdw777 Sun Apr 14, 2024 2:11 pm

Hola Mauricio!…. The acceleration ring for the Wen-Mac works excellent and adds to the little engine’s alma… Very Happy …. Will be interested to see what model you will design for it… Will be unique for sure!!!

Regarding the pressure tap; I have no experience with them other than I have one for a
Norvel AME .061…. It was made into the backplate and the orifice is .015” (.381 mm)…The engine was quite strong when I used it and had good fuel draw so I never tried the pressure fitting…. Hopefully the fotos and measurement will  help your project…

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Post  GallopingGhostler Sun Apr 14, 2024 2:49 pm

El corazón del motor parece muy fuerza, especialmente después tus modificaciones. Very Happy
The engine's heart seems very strong, especially after your modifications.
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Post  F4D Phantom II Sun Apr 14, 2024 5:48 pm

Hello Mauricio
                       If you decide to try the pressure fitting on the side of the crankcase on another project you have to make sure that the fitting doesn`t get on the way of the connecting rod. I`m doing it to a Cox TD using a Fox 4-40 fitting and I will be grinding the fitting because it sticks out a little and I don`t want the rod getting damaged Here is a picture. You are doing a great job on the rebuild.
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Post  MauricioB Mon Apr 15, 2024 1:29 am

Thanks guys! You are offering a lot of very interesting and important information!...thank you!
So I keep trying, today I used a Cox Surestar type backplate spraybar and needle, the result is the same as my own needle and spraybar assembly, so it occurred to me to put a Cox medallion .049 needle and spraybar, I want to see what it throws essay. I'll tell you shortly...
On the other hand, I wonder...the air intake tube is quite long compared to other engines, in addition, the spraybar is almost attached to the crankshaft, what would happen if it were a few millimeters higher??, maybe the mixture is not Would it fit into the crankcase so heavy, maybe it would fit more dispersed in spray?...I don't know, there are some doubts I have...
In the photo I show the Wen-Mac .049 with medallion needle and spraybar....I will share the experience shortly.

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Post  GallopingGhostler Mon Apr 15, 2024 1:41 am

A longer venturi above the needle helps to provide laminar air flow. This means that the extra length helps to smooth the air so it flows smoothly around the spray bar, so you get maximum consistent suction of fuel to air for more efficient air-fuel mixing.

Un venturi más largo encima de la aguja ayuda a proporcionar un flujo de aire laminar. Esto significa que la longitud adicional ayuda a suavizar el aire para que fluya suavemente alrededor de la barra rociadora, de modo que obtenga la máxima succión constante de combustible al aire para una mezcla más eficiente de aire y combustible.

No levantaría más el conjunto de la válvula de aguja.
I would not lift the needle valve assembly any higher.
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Post  MauricioB Mon Apr 15, 2024 12:34 pm

perfect, thanks for all the explanation Jorge. This afternoon I will test again with the medallion .049 spraybar....
What do you think about the angle of the mouth of the venturi tube, changing the orientation, would it help more direct air entry?

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Post  GallopingGhostler Mon Apr 15, 2024 12:43 pm

No, misma razón, derrota a la longitud. (No, same reason, defeats the length.)
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Post  MauricioB Mon Apr 15, 2024 1:23 pm

GallopingGhostler wrote:No, misma razón, derrota a la longitud. (No, same reason, defeats the length.)

Ok Jorge!!....then I'll leave it as is! lol!
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Post  F4D Phantom II Mon Apr 15, 2024 4:50 pm

Hello Mauricio
                        I thought about the best way to add the pressure fitting and decided that it was better to make a fitting out of aluminum to press in the hole I already made in the side of the cox crankcase. I made the stub that was going into the hole a 2 thousands bigger. I applied JB weld and with a cylinder and backplate in place I pressed the pressure fitting in. Now all I have to do is wait till it dries and with my dremel remove the excess of the stub that poked into the crankcase. I think this idea is better than using the fox pressure fitting that I have. The hole I made in the fitting is .030 thousand.  You can make the fitting in your lathe. On the intake the sharp edge on the lip needs to be radiused,sharp edges create turbulence that affects air inlet into the engine. You can use an exacto knife to shave the sharp edge. Every little bit helps.I hope this helps.
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Post  MauricioB Mon Apr 15, 2024 5:18 pm

Setting:
Spraybar: Cox Medallion .049
Needle: Cox Medallion .049
Propeller: APC 5 x 3
Control Ring: Own manufacturing.
Fuel: Castor20%/Nitro20%/Rest Methanol
RPM range: 8200/13500
Glow Plug: O.S. 8
Conclusion:
This is the best performance I have obtained for this engine using the self-made acceleration ring.
Thanks to everyone who contributed information (Friends of Cox Engine Forum and Horacio Banus).

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