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Phoenix RC Flight Simulator
My last RC flight was some 25+ years ago and after many successful flights, albeit two and three channel, I had a trilogy of disasters.
A Hughes helicopter - this had taken weeks to build, even more weeks to set up and stop destroying rotor blades. After I had finally mastered hovering, I took it up high and the collective broke. A 75 foot plummet to the ground and everything fitted nicely into a carrier bag!
A scale Tiger Moth with a .35 engine (rescued from the helicopter!). Ten successful flights following tuition from a pal but I thought it too slow and ponderous. A bout of over confidence, followed by an attempt at a fast landing............matchsticks!
A minature hand launch glider (minature by the standards of the day). A lot of nice flights but each one not long in the air - two or three minutes at the most. I therefore started catapult launching - much longer flights but one day found a thermal. Too long a flight and the onboard button cell battery expired and the g;ider was never to be seen again!
Lastly, having spent weeks building models, I bought a glider kit with a fibreglass fuselage and foam cored wings. It took no time at all to complete and bungee launch. I had several flights with it but wanted more in the way of performance.
Another thermally day and it had climbed high. The flying field is on the flight path to Heathrow and has height restrictions and so I put it into a dive. I over did the elevator as it was a bit slow to respond and thought it would loop. Wasn't fast enough and so a sort of semi stall which a recovered from.
I let the glider climb again and this time prolonged the dive, pulled the stick back and ............... the wing snapped!
After the most amazing pirouettes, twists and shimmies.....
![Phoenix RC Flight Simulator Snipe110](https://i.servimg.com/u/f72/17/71/25/79/snipe110.jpg)
So, I have been reluctant to venture out to the park armed with radio gear and a model. I have been using the weather as an excuse and then, I came across the Phoenix RC simulator. I searched this site and found the venerable John Goddard recommended it.
Bought it, installed it and it is superb. I found on it a flying field that looks like my local, 3 minutes walk, park. Set everything up and first of all found that I definitely wasn't ready to march out there with the Spitfire IX that I had bought. Way too fast and responsive.
I also realised that a full camoflage upper with a sky blue under belly is not a good idea to learn with in a park surrounded by trees. It is easy to get disorientated. I must have smashed the thing about twenty times! (simulated of course).
I then changed the plane to a Piper Cub. Much easier to see and tamer to fly. Not long before take offs and landings disaster free. The graphics are superb.
![Phoenix RC Flight Simulator Phoeni10](https://i.servimg.com/u/f72/17/71/25/79/phoeni10.jpg)
I even connected it to the TV.
![Phoenix RC Flight Simulator Phoeni11](https://i.servimg.com/u/f72/17/71/25/79/phoeni11.jpg)
It has been a superb learning experience and I can even now manage the Spitfire - I quickly (well slowly actually!) realised that I could alter the controls on the transmitter (Spektrum DX8) to tone things down and stop me getting into trouble quite so quickly. This also means that I can't get out of trouble quite so quickly but I have now progressed onto some of the stunt planes. Each one of these simulated planes has its own characteristics.
![Phoenix RC Flight Simulator Phoeni12](https://i.servimg.com/u/f72/17/71/25/79/phoeni12.jpg)
I also learned something else. I used a camera to take these pictures, hence the poor quality, but there is always a clamour for "videos" on this site. Trying to fly one handed and operating a camera ends up like this!
![Phoenix RC Flight Simulator Phoeni13](https://i.servimg.com/u/f72/17/71/25/79/phoeni13.jpg)
I have not compared this to other simulators but have changed the flying areas, models, views and generally fiddled with it and found it superb and easy to recommend. The only thing I don't like is that although you can record a flight, it is not in a distributable format. Can't have everything!
A Hughes helicopter - this had taken weeks to build, even more weeks to set up and stop destroying rotor blades. After I had finally mastered hovering, I took it up high and the collective broke. A 75 foot plummet to the ground and everything fitted nicely into a carrier bag!
A scale Tiger Moth with a .35 engine (rescued from the helicopter!). Ten successful flights following tuition from a pal but I thought it too slow and ponderous. A bout of over confidence, followed by an attempt at a fast landing............matchsticks!
A minature hand launch glider (minature by the standards of the day). A lot of nice flights but each one not long in the air - two or three minutes at the most. I therefore started catapult launching - much longer flights but one day found a thermal. Too long a flight and the onboard button cell battery expired and the g;ider was never to be seen again!
Lastly, having spent weeks building models, I bought a glider kit with a fibreglass fuselage and foam cored wings. It took no time at all to complete and bungee launch. I had several flights with it but wanted more in the way of performance.
Another thermally day and it had climbed high. The flying field is on the flight path to Heathrow and has height restrictions and so I put it into a dive. I over did the elevator as it was a bit slow to respond and thought it would loop. Wasn't fast enough and so a sort of semi stall which a recovered from.
I let the glider climb again and this time prolonged the dive, pulled the stick back and ............... the wing snapped!
After the most amazing pirouettes, twists and shimmies.....
![Phoenix RC Flight Simulator Snipe110](https://i.servimg.com/u/f72/17/71/25/79/snipe110.jpg)
So, I have been reluctant to venture out to the park armed with radio gear and a model. I have been using the weather as an excuse and then, I came across the Phoenix RC simulator. I searched this site and found the venerable John Goddard recommended it.
Bought it, installed it and it is superb. I found on it a flying field that looks like my local, 3 minutes walk, park. Set everything up and first of all found that I definitely wasn't ready to march out there with the Spitfire IX that I had bought. Way too fast and responsive.
I also realised that a full camoflage upper with a sky blue under belly is not a good idea to learn with in a park surrounded by trees. It is easy to get disorientated. I must have smashed the thing about twenty times! (simulated of course).
I then changed the plane to a Piper Cub. Much easier to see and tamer to fly. Not long before take offs and landings disaster free. The graphics are superb.
![Phoenix RC Flight Simulator Phoeni10](https://i.servimg.com/u/f72/17/71/25/79/phoeni10.jpg)
I even connected it to the TV.
![Phoenix RC Flight Simulator Phoeni11](https://i.servimg.com/u/f72/17/71/25/79/phoeni11.jpg)
It has been a superb learning experience and I can even now manage the Spitfire - I quickly (well slowly actually!) realised that I could alter the controls on the transmitter (Spektrum DX8) to tone things down and stop me getting into trouble quite so quickly. This also means that I can't get out of trouble quite so quickly but I have now progressed onto some of the stunt planes. Each one of these simulated planes has its own characteristics.
![Phoenix RC Flight Simulator Phoeni12](https://i.servimg.com/u/f72/17/71/25/79/phoeni12.jpg)
I also learned something else. I used a camera to take these pictures, hence the poor quality, but there is always a clamour for "videos" on this site. Trying to fly one handed and operating a camera ends up like this!
![Phoenix RC Flight Simulator Phoeni13](https://i.servimg.com/u/f72/17/71/25/79/phoeni13.jpg)
I have not compared this to other simulators but have changed the flying areas, models, views and generally fiddled with it and found it superb and easy to recommend. The only thing I don't like is that although you can record a flight, it is not in a distributable format. Can't have everything!
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Re: Phoenix RC Flight Simulator
Looks promising. My recent RC experience resulted in rekitting via post hole digging. Maybe a simulator is a good idea.
Phil
Phil
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Re: Phoenix RC Flight Simulator
Have you found the scale editor yet?
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Re: Phoenix RC Flight Simulator
shell shock wrote:Have you found the scale editor yet?
Yep I agree SS, doubling the aircraft size is a great feature.
My Capiche is set at +197%.
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Re: Phoenix RC Flight Simulator
I hadn't thought of scaling.
That leaves me with a problem. All my models are UMX(Ultra Micro?) and the ones in the simulator are much bigger.
I should now, perhaps, be scaling down. Just when I am managing to fly and land that Spitfire without crashing. Also, I haven't managed to lose it for a while because I couldn't tell whether it was coming or going after letting it stray too far away!
That leaves me with a problem. All my models are UMX(Ultra Micro?) and the ones in the simulator are much bigger.
I should now, perhaps, be scaling down. Just when I am managing to fly and land that Spitfire without crashing. Also, I haven't managed to lose it for a while because I couldn't tell whether it was coming or going after letting it stray too far away!
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Re: Phoenix RC Flight Simulator
It's a great sim, good choice. Once you got the hang of it, put all your trims way out of line... It's good practice.
Re: Phoenix RC Flight Simulator
One of the first things I tell my guys is,-
No one wins prizes for flying a long way away, you
Just make things difficult for yourself.
Something to ensure that doesn't happen as easily
Is to fly bigger as well.
PS
Don't tell anyone but bigger planes fly better too.
My 50cc is a LOT easier to fly than my Cox beasties.
No one wins prizes for flying a long way away, you
Just make things difficult for yourself.
Something to ensure that doesn't happen as easily
Is to fly bigger as well.
PS
Don't tell anyone but bigger planes fly better too.
My 50cc is a LOT easier to fly than my Cox beasties.
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Re: Phoenix RC Flight Simulator
BTW Ian
Don't forget to download the latest version which is V4n
![Phoenix RC Flight Simulator Pictur26](https://i.servimg.com/u/f75/17/11/14/81/th/pictur26.jpg)
Below you can see the difference in standard size and +97%
![Phoenix RC Flight Simulator Pictur27](https://i.servimg.com/u/f75/17/11/14/81/pictur27.jpg)
![Phoenix RC Flight Simulator Pictur28](https://i.servimg.com/u/f75/17/11/14/81/pictur28.jpg)
PS
I can't photograph the telly either.
Don't forget to download the latest version which is V4n
![Phoenix RC Flight Simulator Pictur26](https://i.servimg.com/u/f75/17/11/14/81/th/pictur26.jpg)
Below you can see the difference in standard size and +97%
![Phoenix RC Flight Simulator Pictur27](https://i.servimg.com/u/f75/17/11/14/81/pictur27.jpg)
![Phoenix RC Flight Simulator Pictur28](https://i.servimg.com/u/f75/17/11/14/81/pictur28.jpg)
PS
I can't photograph the telly either.
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Re: Phoenix RC Flight Simulator
Do the sim programs come with a joy stick/controller, or do you have to use your field controller?
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Re: Phoenix RC Flight Simulator
Might try this:
http://windows.microsoft.com/en-us/windows-vista/take-a-screen-capture-print-screen
http://windows.microsoft.com/en-us/windows-vista/take-a-screen-capture-print-screen
Re: Phoenix RC Flight Simulator
You have to hook up with your field radio or buy the package with the DX5e radio, if you don't have a compatible radio.
http://www.phoenix-sim.com
http://www.phoenix-sim.com
Re: Phoenix RC Flight Simulator
The adapter for the Phoenix sim is $10. Many radios do not require an adapter.
http://www.hobby-lobby.com/phoenix_r_c_pro_simulator_v4.0_1039852_prd1.htm?pSearchQueryId=4249092
This is on my purchase list as soon as some unexpected expenses are dealt with. The adapter will work with my HiTec radio.
I think this will be less expensive and more fun than digging another post hole.
Phil
http://www.hobby-lobby.com/phoenix_r_c_pro_simulator_v4.0_1039852_prd1.htm?pSearchQueryId=4249092
This is on my purchase list as soon as some unexpected expenses are dealt with. The adapter will work with my HiTec radio.
I think this will be less expensive and more fun than digging another post hole.
Phil
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Re: Phoenix RC Flight Simulator
pkrankow wrote:I think this will be less expensive and more fun than digging another post hole.
Phil
Ain't that the truth! The reset button is awesome!
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Re: Phoenix RC Flight Simulator
I am going to take John's word for it. The bigger the aeroplane the easier it is to fly!
I will be putting my order in soon.
http://www.planecheck.com/index.asp?ent=da&id=19199&cor=y
I will be putting my order in soon.
http://www.planecheck.com/index.asp?ent=da&id=19199&cor=y
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Re: Phoenix RC Flight Simulator
You should pop over to our patch in the Summer Ian
There's always something going to or from Duxford.
We have a friendly Hurri pilot who does big barrel
Rolls for us too. My fav from the collection was Big
Beautiful Doll which hung from the roof in the Yank
Exhibit. I was gutted when she was taken out by
The Skyraider the other year. Just after Lou IV too.
There's always something going to or from Duxford.
We have a friendly Hurri pilot who does big barrel
Rolls for us too. My fav from the collection was Big
Beautiful Doll which hung from the roof in the Yank
Exhibit. I was gutted when she was taken out by
The Skyraider the other year. Just after Lou IV too.
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Re: Phoenix RC Flight Simulator
ian1954 wrote:I am going to take John's word for it. The bigger the aeroplane the easier it is to fly!
I will be putting my order in soon.
http://www.planecheck.com/index.asp?ent=da&id=19199&cor=y
That is not terribly expensive for a full restore with only 50 hours on it.
A little bit out of my budget though
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Phil
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Re: Phoenix RC Flight Simulator
Just noticed the Hurri is displaying at the Royal Gunpowder Mills
On the Sunday and a Spit on the Monday of May bank Holiday.
We're just the other side of the M25 so we get a free display
On the Sunday and a Spit on the Monday of May bank Holiday.
We're just the other side of the M25 so we get a free display
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I'm jealous but my most memorable event was the fly past that took place in 1990 celebrating the Battle of Britain. Seven formations from the RAF including Concord and the Red Arrows flew over my house. It was an incredible sight and sound.
But this was nothing compared to what followed. The Lancaster, Hurricane and Spitfire flying in low formation. Those engines - 6 of them. Amazing sound. That was unforgettable.
But this was nothing compared to what followed. The Lancaster, Hurricane and Spitfire flying in low formation. Those engines - 6 of them. Amazing sound. That was unforgettable.
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Re: Phoenix RC Flight Simulator
I've flown in a TBM Avenger and a B-25 Mitchell
I'll have to find the pics sometime
I've been under a B-1B when they started it up... loud but awesome![Smile](https://2img.net/i/fa/i/smiles/icon_smile.gif)
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I've been under a B-1B when they started it up... loud but awesome
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Re: Phoenix RC Flight Simulator
I'm ashamed to say but this takes some
Beating
Turn the speakers right up
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5nj77mJlzrc
Beating
Turn the speakers right up
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5nj77mJlzrc
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Re: Phoenix RC Flight Simulator
Beaten
The Focke Wulf (for some reason I like the name!) was on par with the Spitfire.
It proved itself to be superior in all but turn radius to the Royal Air Force's main front-line fighter, the Spitfire Mk. V. However, the Spitfire Mk. IX. put paid to that!
The Focke Wulf (for some reason I like the name!) was on par with the Spitfire.
It proved itself to be superior in all but turn radius to the Royal Air Force's main front-line fighter, the Spitfire Mk. V. However, the Spitfire Mk. IX. put paid to that!
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Re: Phoenix RC Flight Simulator
I also tried the phoenix rc simulator some hours and really like it.
Regarding the WWII Fighters:
Looks like the latest version of the Bf 109 (G-6). The FW 190 looks also to be a late version. They also made some turbo charged prototypes and finally the D Version with a inline engine (the a version had a radial engine). The Focke Wulf was called Butcher Bird by the RAF Pilots until they received the Merlin 66 engine, however the spitfire outmatch the FW 190 in high altitude in every development step.
I have some interesting literature here from Alfred Price, where some WWII Fighters were compared.
Regarding the WWII Fighters:
Looks like the latest version of the Bf 109 (G-6). The FW 190 looks also to be a late version. They also made some turbo charged prototypes and finally the D Version with a inline engine (the a version had a radial engine). The Focke Wulf was called Butcher Bird by the RAF Pilots until they received the Merlin 66 engine, however the spitfire outmatch the FW 190 in high altitude in every development step.
I have some interesting literature here from Alfred Price, where some WWII Fighters were compared.
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Re: Phoenix RC Flight Simulator
Thanks for the video, Travis. It's something I've always wanted to do, but never did.
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Re: Phoenix RC Flight Simulator
Waiting on the cable for my radio....software and videos look pretty though.
Not so local LHS came though with the best price I've seen, and they are shipping the cable to me when they get it (tomorrow expected, I'll have it Friday)
Phil
Not so local LHS came though with the best price I've seen, and they are shipping the cable to me when they get it (tomorrow expected, I'll have it Friday)
Phil
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