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Perky photos
JPvelo Mon Apr 21, 2014 7:49 pm
Not planning on a full build thread but this thing is looking cool and I wanted to share:
Solid balsa wing with spruce/hardwood laminate all around:
Solid balsa wing with spruce/hardwood laminate all around:
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Re: Perky photos
Cribbs74 Mon Apr 21, 2014 8:13 pm
Nice Jim!
Two Questions....
What are you planning on doing about the gas tank dilemma? And what size spinner did you use?
Two Questions....
What are you planning on doing about the gas tank dilemma? And what size spinner did you use?
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Re: Perky photos
Ken Cook Mon Apr 21, 2014 8:26 pm
I would put a bladder in there. I'm pretty sure you could sneak rocket tube or a fluorescent light guard tube in there under the wing. It looks pretty cool. Ken
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JPvelo Mon Apr 21, 2014 8:46 pm
Ron,
Spinner is 1 3/4". As Ken suggested I'm using rocket tube and a Sullivan 1oz tank (perky rules prohibit pressure systems).
Bellcrank is on the bottom if the crutch to make room, the wing will be partially relieved as well.
The two smaller holes in the mount close to the tank are for 2-56 cowl retaining screws.
Jim
Spinner is 1 3/4". As Ken suggested I'm using rocket tube and a Sullivan 1oz tank (perky rules prohibit pressure systems).
Bellcrank is on the bottom if the crutch to make room, the wing will be partially relieved as well.
The two smaller holes in the mount close to the tank are for 2-56 cowl retaining screws.
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Re: Perky photos
Cribbs74 Mon Apr 21, 2014 8:55 pm
Good idea,
I was thinking you would go pressure like Ken mentioned. Do you know how long that NV runs on 1oz?
I was thinking you would go pressure like Ken mentioned. Do you know how long that NV runs on 1oz?
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Re: Perky photos
RknRusty Mon Apr 21, 2014 9:07 pm
Yikes, that's a bad looking little plane, I love it. Like a winged torpedo. That Norvel .10(I got that right didn't I) is a cool looking engine too. I can't wait to see it after it emerges from "JP's Paint, Trim and Style Shop."
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Re: Perky photos
JPvelo Mon Apr 21, 2014 10:00 pm
Ron,
Perky speed is only 16 laps (1 mile) from a standing start. Hopefully I'll get between 1 1/2 - 2 minutes out of it. If you want to compete in perky events you can't have a pressurized fuel system so bladders are out.
Rusty,
That's a AME .15, on an 18" span. Should be fun
I think it's going to be mostly clear dope over wood with minimal trim. I don't want to hide the two tone leading edge.
Jim
Perky speed is only 16 laps (1 mile) from a standing start. Hopefully I'll get between 1 1/2 - 2 minutes out of it. If you want to compete in perky events you can't have a pressurized fuel system so bladders are out.
Rusty,
That's a AME .15, on an 18" span. Should be fun
I think it's going to be mostly clear dope over wood with minimal trim. I don't want to hide the two tone leading edge.
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Re: Perky photos
batjac Tue Apr 22, 2014 12:55 am
Drat! When you said "Perky", I thought .....
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OVERLORD Tue Apr 22, 2014 8:33 am
Over here, someone made a Perky last year:
More pictures on this forum:
http://www.retroplane.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=3561&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=255
Good luck with the build Jim.
More pictures on this forum:
http://www.retroplane.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=3561&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=255
Good luck with the build Jim.
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roddie Tue Apr 22, 2014 9:26 am
Hey Jim.. got the "need for speed"?? 
I'm curious if you're planning on making a take-off dolly.. like the one in this photo that you posted a few weeks ago?
I'm curious if you're planning on making a take-off dolly.. like the one in this photo that you posted a few weeks ago? 
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duke.johnson Tue Apr 22, 2014 11:03 am
Here's the Phantom MK XV kit my kids bought me for Christmas, I still need to build this one, it looks a lot like the Perky.
I have another called a Smokey Joe or Magic Miler that I need to build for a contest this year. I can't edit the size of the file to post from here though.
I have another called a Smokey Joe or Magic Miler that I need to build for a contest this year. I can't edit the size of the file to post from here though.
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Cribbs74 Tue Apr 22, 2014 11:45 am
Roddie,
The Perky has landing gear supplied in the Blackhawk kit. It looks pretty cool too. Not sure if Jim is going to use it though.
Duke,
That little plane has a Ringmaster stab/elevator!
Ron
The Perky has landing gear supplied in the Blackhawk kit. It looks pretty cool too. Not sure if Jim is going to use it though.
Duke,
That little plane has a Ringmaster stab/elevator!
Ron
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batjac Tue Apr 22, 2014 12:18 pm
duke.johnson wrote:Here's the Phantom MK XV kit my kids bought me for Christmas, I still need to build this one, it looks a lot like the Perky.
I have another called a Smokey Joe or Magic Miler that I need to build for a contest this year. I can't edit the size of the file to post from here though.
Duke, Are you gonna put a Gilbert on it?
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JPvelo Tue Apr 22, 2014 12:31 pm
Cribbs74 wrote:Hmm,
Totally different wing on that one.
A perky only has to match the outline if the original, you can use whatever construction method you like. I've seen a lot of liberty on where the wing sits height wise though.
The wheels that come with the kit are awesome, I will definitely be using them.
Here's a whole page if Perkys:
http://clamf.aerosports.net.au/categories/speed/Perky/Perky.htm
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JPvelo Tue Apr 22, 2014 1:00 pm
Turtle deck done:
This makes me want to take on a full fuselage stunter.
I'm home sick with a cold my girlfriend brought me from Iowa last week. Expect mucho building progress.
Jim
This makes me want to take on a full fuselage stunter.
I'm home sick with a cold my girlfriend brought me from Iowa last week. Expect mucho building progress.
Jim
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Re: Perky photos
Oldenginerod Wed Apr 23, 2014 6:41 am
batjac wrote:duke.johnson wrote:Here's the Phantom MK XV kit my kids bought me for Christmas, I still need to build this one, it looks a lot like the Perky.
I have another called a Smokey Joe or Magic Miler that I need to build for a contest this year. I can't edit the size of the file to post from here though.
Duke, Are you gonna put a Gilbert on it?
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Yeah.
Someone put a Gilbert on one of these, please. How cool does that look. Once I saw the Blackhawk picture of the Phantom with the Gilbert I just wanted one. I have a Gilbert 7 ready to launch. (The Phantom would need an 11 me thinks). Bolted it to an old stick fuse & 18" slab wing plane my late brother built 40 years ago which I ran with a very tired OS Pet II. I'm surprised how well the old Gilbert pulls. She really wants to launch. The plane ain't pretty, but I reckon the Gilbert will haul it around the circle just fine. 
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roddie Wed Apr 23, 2014 12:38 pm
JPvelo wrote:Turtle deck done:
This makes me want to take on a full fuselage stunter.
I'm home sick with a cold my girlfriend brought me from Iowa last week. Expect mucho building progress.
Jim
Looking GREAT Jim! Sorry you're sick... but it's good that you have a distraction.
Speaking of your wanting to take on a full-fuse stunter.. and not meaning to hijack your thread.. The TopFlite "Nobler" comes to mind. It's a great choice for .35-.40 size engines.. and has a flapped wing.
There are several versions/sizes of this model that have been built. Ian has an older Nobler kit that he posted a photo of, a few weeks ago.
plans 54" (1952) and later 50"
http://www.outerzone.co.uk/plan_details.asp?ID=377
http://www.outerzone.co.uk/plan_details.asp?ID=525
Here's a photo that shows some framework of a full-size Nobler with a Fox .35
and here's a plan for a Junior Nobler (40" span .15-.25 engine) http://www.outerzone.co.uk/plan_details.asp?ID=526
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Ken Cook Thu Apr 24, 2014 4:59 am
Roddie, do you know where the full size Nobler is from? It appears to be a Doug Moon ARF. These were available for $200 a few years ago. Many improvements over the Top Flite ARF Nobler. The clear covering which is a Phil Cartier product (SLC) gives it away. I'm just curious if they listed a builder. Ken
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roddie Thu Apr 24, 2014 8:40 am
Ken Cook wrote: Roddie, do you know where the full size Nobler is from? It appears to be a Doug Moon ARF. These were available for $200 a few years ago. Many improvements over the Top Flite ARF Nobler. The clear covering which is a Phil Cartier product (SLC) gives it away. I'm just curious if they listed a builder. Ken
Ken, I found that photo while searching google images. I'll see if I can find it again. I posted that pic for Jim, because of some visible framework. When you say "full size".. do you mean it's a repro of the original 54" early 1950's version?
Edit: ok.. the info for that image states; "Classic Top Flite NOBLER in nude-look finish to obtain a total weight of 980gr. in flight order. Scratchbuilt by Gabriele Macri and powered by Fox .35"
There is no info. on what plan the model was built from.
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Cribbs74 Thu Apr 24, 2014 6:39 pm
That looks to me like a Green Box Nobler. I will defer to Ken as he has been around the scene longer.
I didn't think the ARF had a built up tail section. Maybe it does?
I didn't think the ARF had a built up tail section. Maybe it does?
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jhaye Thu Apr 24, 2014 10:04 pm
Ron,
the Phantom is a Matt Kania design the guy that designed the Ringmaster.
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the Phantom is a Matt Kania design the guy that designed the Ringmaster.
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JPvelo Thu Apr 24, 2014 11:05 pm
Yep, the Perky and the phantom are both from Kania.jhaye wrote:Ron,
the Phantom is a Matt Kania design the guy that designed the Ringmaster.
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