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Post  getback Sun Jun 21, 2015 8:18 am

ENGINE ID Please  Unknow10   This all I have is a pic . Thanks , Eric
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Post  Ken Cook Sun Jun 21, 2015 8:24 am

The engine looks like a Mills diesel. I certainly could be incorrect on this but I believe CS (Chinese) was making some copies of certain diesels like the Oliver Tiger. Ian would be most helpful here. Of all the Mills diesel engines I've seen the case was a black finish where yours is mill finish. I would like to know myself. Ken
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Post  robot797 Sun Jun 21, 2015 8:44 am

i dont know what engine it is

but i know it looks realy nice
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Post  akjgardner Sun Jun 21, 2015 11:33 am

I don't know either, but I would like to have one.
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Post  Theo Kleynhans Sun Jun 21, 2015 2:00 pm

It also looks like a Mills 0.9 diesel to me.
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Post  Oldenginerod Sun Jun 21, 2015 5:14 pm

I would suggest home made. It's certainly "Millsish", but it looks to have a separate cylinder bolted to the case. Mills were cast in one with a sylinder sleeve. Nice job though.

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Post  getback Sun Jun 21, 2015 6:10 pm

the person is in Canada and I have ask him of the origin am waiting Fishing not a Mills , could nt find the knock off version RC Plane
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Post  getback Sun Jun 21, 2015 6:12 pm

@getback wrote:the person is in Canada and I have ask him of the origin am waiting Fishing  not a Mills , could nt find the knock off version   RC Plane
there are some hi numbers bidding some body noes Huh...
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Post  gcb Sun Jun 21, 2015 7:40 pm

Here are a couple of CS Mills. First is a 1.3cc then a couple of .75cc's.

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Post  getback Sun Jun 21, 2015 7:44 pm

reply /// I don't no lol! DAMMIT! lol! lol!  o well .. Thanks George I seen those and https://www.google.com/search?q=mills+.75+diesel+engine&biw=1067&bih=503&tbm=isch&tbo=u&source=univ&sa=X&ei=PlqHVbeXLpHeoATv-aP4BA&ved=0CB0QsAQ not the same cyl with th big head Very Happy
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Post  Davenz13 Sun Jun 21, 2015 8:49 pm

Hi Eric
IMHO I tend to agree with Ken and George. I think it’s a CS. Here’s a picture of a CS which bears a striking resemblance to your subject, especially the crankcase. A good possibility I think. Also a link to an article on the CS company.

http://adriansmodelaeroengines.com/catalog/main.php?cat_id=18

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Post  getback Sun Jun 21, 2015 9:15 pm

Thanks Guys here it  is and ck out his other items ..... my pockets not that deep for FUN  http://www.ebay.com/itm/SMALL-MODEL-AIRPLANE-ENGINE-EXCELLENT-/381295380174 I think if your not proud enough to put your name on it well ,, ops for got cox don't do that all the time Sad


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Post  Oldenginerod Mon Jun 22, 2015 12:37 am

Here's a picture from over on RC Groups.  I'd say it confirms it as a CS Mills 0.375cc.

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Post  getback Mon Jun 22, 2015 7:43 am

well looks like the sale was not too out of line at $ 102.51 just to much for my blood another was 82.00 and a 95.00 all diesel  here's the co. address http://www.csmodelengine.com/?a=productlist&cid=1  Thanks all for the reply's Small Cox Logo
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Post  ian1954 Mon Jun 22, 2015 9:32 am

It looks like a CS Mills Navo .375cc diesel. About 100 of these were made (although with CS Engines one can never be sure!)

There is also the CS Mills Navo .375cc Special

https://www.coxengineforum.com/t5606-navo-0-37-cc-special

Supposedly only 23 of these were made.

CS manufacture all sorts of "Millsish" engines - popular versions here are built for Red Fin engines.

http://www.redfinengines.com/product-category/diesel-engines/

The machined crankcase on these has a square base to the cylinder head. I have only seen the round base on the little Navos.

Red Fin also supply a reed valve version.

http://www.redfinengines.com/product-category/sports-engine/

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Post  getback Mon Jun 22, 2015 12:04 pm

Hello Ian , Thanks for the info is the pricing about right as I posted above what they sold /selling for ?
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Post  ian1954 Mon Jun 22, 2015 1:43 pm

@getback wrote:Hello Ian , Thanks for the info is the pricing about right as I posted above what they sold /selling for ?

Not really sure for a used one.

For a collector they were originally available (new) with certificate, box and documentation for about $120 for the plain and $150 for the special.

Like most limited edition engines, they were at a premium for collectors. A used one loses value and the initial attraction.

Engines are worth what you can get for them at the time.

Being a grumpy old git, I remember when engines from many manufacturers were available and collectors were few and far between. Engines were bought to be used - the box and packaging were irrelevant (usually promptly discarded) and only the guarantee was kept (sometimes).

If you had a new engine it would hold its value. Sell it at the model club and you were saving someone a trip to the model shop and an instant transfer of ownership.

A used/second hand engine was held in the same regard. An engine that had been run in and flown could carry a premium. Someone had spent time and money on fuel to run it in and fettle it! You knew exactly what you were going to get - especially if you had seen it in action!

Engine collecting - particularly the "Mills" variety is a minefield. Aurora (India) own the right to the name and are the only company allowed to use the name Mills.

CS Engines (China)produce the majority in different formats for different suppliers. The ones produced for David Boddington are now known as Boddo Mills and carry a premium.

They produced many under the Navo name (sold directly and through specific dealers) and as previously linked for Red Fin engines.

Also, "replicas" have been produced by MP Jet (Czech).

An original brand new and unused Mills is a rarity. There are plenty scrap box and ripe for restoration but they don't command the price of the replicas even fully restored.

Value is a strange thing!

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