Roddie scores some glow engines!

roddie Sun Dec 17, 2017 1:17 pm

Lynne and I went away to Sturbridge, MA to celebrate our 10th wedding anniversary this weekend. I'd mentioned in that thread that Sturbridge is home to "Hog Heaven Hobbies". Well.. we went there on Saturday afternoon and I picked-up some misc. items such as fuel-tubing, Sig "Easy-Hinges" and a "Fourmost" one-way glow-fuel valve.

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Just prior to leaving.. (and I almost forgot to ask..) I inquired as to anything "Cox-related". The fella didn't think so.. but I mentioned the possibility of a "box" in the backroom. Then the fella said; "oh yea.. hold on a second.." Shocked

He returned with a small box. In that box was a large plastic bag full of 2nd-hand Cox engines marked $50. I didn't even have to open the bag to know that I wanted it. The bag had a "code" that looked like they were being sold under consignment..

When I got out to the car.. I took a closer look..

A Tee Dee .049.. (complete) with a tank-mount and (I think..) the original Cox/Leisure-Dynamics box. All papers/insert/stickers were in the box.. but no wrenches..

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A Tee Dee .09 and Medallion .049.. both complete..

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Two Golden Bee .049's complete; one having a H/C glowhead..

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Two 190's.. and a Bee-case w/cylinder/piston/rod..

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Two Testors front-rotary .049's with a spare cyl./piston/rod.. and glow-head..

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Then there were some other small parts.. including a NOS Kirncraft NVA for Tee Dee .049/.051..

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and some other misc. hardware/parts..

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Some of these engines are "stuck".. but likely will free-up with a little heat or soaking.

What I "passed-on" were two separately-bagged Cox .049 product-engines.. ($25/ea.) and a Brodak .061 for $50 in its box. Those three engines "alone"would have cost me $100.. (minus any haggling)

I didn't haggle on the bagful of 10 engines.. $5/ea. I felt was a damn good deal!

KariFS Sun Dec 17, 2017 1:30 pm

Now that's a SCORE if I've ever seen one Cool

The needle valve assembly alone is worth at least 30 bucks.

Congrats!

And belated happy anniversary wishes too!

roddie Sun Dec 17, 2017 1:39 pm

KariFS wrote:Now that's a SCORE if I've ever seen one

The needle valve assembly alone is worth at least 30 bucks.

Congrats!

And belated happy anniversary wishes too!

Thank You Kari! Thumbs Up

Kim Sun Dec 17, 2017 1:57 pm

THAT...my friend...is a working example of Good Karma !!!

Congrats on your find AND the 10th Anniversary of your REALLY Great Find !!!!!

MauricioB Sun Dec 17, 2017 2:50 pm

Great Roddie, now you have a few engines and pieces to entertain and relive ... surely you will share news with us.
A hug!

Tee Bee Sun Dec 17, 2017 2:57 pm

Nice find! Some fine engines there. Congrats.

Oldenginerod Sun Dec 17, 2017 3:05 pm

Just don't go on about the bargain too much in front of Lynne. Remember, the highlight of the trip was spending it with Lynne, right? lol!

rsv1cox Sun Dec 17, 2017 4:24 pm

I think that you "scored" a home run roddie!

Bob

Marleysky Sun Dec 17, 2017 6:23 pm

Roddie, you got a really Big Bang for your bucks on that deal! Super deal for you for sure! And, I’ll second the thoughts recommend by Rod!

66 Malibu Sun Dec 17, 2017 7:25 pm

Roddie,
My vote for the best Christmas/Holiday/Anniversary purchase of the year !!!!!! Great Score !!!!!
The .049 Medallion is worth the price of admission !!! The Rest is Free !!!
That KK needle valve goes for upwards of $30 on eBay now days .....
I have made some great scores ( Not as good as you but pretty good ) buying hobby shop junk boxes for a few bucks.
At one time I bought out all Cox stuff (Norvel, too) and 1/2a kits from about two dozen dead or dying hobby shops that I came across in my work travels...Got some for original dealer costs but got most for 10-20 cents on the dollar !!!

Great pretty place Sturbridge, MA !!
I worked a trade show there once.. I flew into Hartford and enjoyed Conn. villages and countryside on the drive up .
Spent about 2 hours at the Aviation Museum in Hartford and saw the GEE BEE ( don't remember if original or a built tribute) and the Burnelli Flying Wing outside.. Really cool.
Great place in the Summer !!!
Steve.......

dckrsn Sun Dec 17, 2017 8:34 pm

Roddie-
Now you have TWO TeeDee .09s.
Oofa! Nice haul.
Bob

balogh Mon Dec 18, 2017 12:42 am

Nice find Roddie...I wonder how many hobbyshops accross the US may still store some forgotten COX stuff waiting for someone to find and put them in use again...

Happy anniversary too.

**Cribbs74** Mon Dec 18, 2017 8:14 am

An anniversary to remember. Let’s put those to good use!

getback Mon Dec 18, 2017 8:31 am

ROCK AND ROLL DUDE !! Your on your way to collectivism Small Cox Logo

!!!! Good thing you just asked . This Site Rocks!

roddie Mon Dec 18, 2017 12:14 pm

Thank you "all" for the kind words! It was good to get away. We didn't do "too much".. but that's ok. We had a nice dinner out on Friday night. We both had bad head/chest colds coming-on.. which put a bit of a damper on the activities. We "did" go to Old Sturbridge Village on Saturday afternoon/evening.. but it was crowded and cold. Cold

I was running a low-grade fever.. and Lynne's feet were getting cold. After less than two hours; we'd both had enough..

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Earlier in the day Saturday, we went to the hobby shop.. then to an antique-shop. If any of you visit the S.E. MA area.. be sure to check-out "Hog Heaven Hobbies" in the "Fiskdale" section of Sturbridge.

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It's a family-owned/operated store.

roddie Wed Jan 09, 2019 5:54 pm

It's been over a year.. but today I decided to give those consigned Cox engines that I scored, some attention. None of them would turn-over.. but I was hoping that they were merely just castor-locked from not being treated to a little after-run oil before being put away.. which is sOoOo often the case with "stuck-engines".

I prepared my work-space by getting out my heat-gun.. and securing a place to hang it nearby to my bench-vice; allowing it to cool-down between uses. I dug-up an old glove for handling a "heated/hot-engine" and also made a "wall" for behind my bench-vise.. to protect the area behind it from excess heat.

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I needed a means to rotate the engines' crankshafts after applying the heat, to see if they'd loosened-up.. so I chose a PVC flywheel that I'd made. A propeller would work equally as well though.

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One at a time; my engines were placed on my vises' anvil.. with their cylinders facing the heat. It only took half a minute on my heat guns' "LOW-SETTING".. to free-up all six engines. A few drops of light-oil "worked-in".. will keep them on "stand-by status".. until I'm ready to configure them for models!

MBT85 Wed Jan 09, 2019 6:53 pm

That’s so awesome roddie!!!
Oh how I wish I’d stumble across ‘forgotten boxes’ like this, but to start with I don’t know where to go looking. Anyway fantastic luck roddie!!

Marleysky Wed Jan 09, 2019 7:10 pm

Nice set up for the task at hand! You’ve given me a rough idea for some tires/wheels with your PVC flywheel. What did you use for the interior of the wheel?

roddie Wed Jan 09, 2019 7:12 pm

MBT85 wrote:That’s so awesome roddie!!!
Oh how I wish I’d stumble across ‘forgotten boxes’ like this, but to start with I don’t know where to go looking. Anyway fantastic luck roddie!!

Thanks for commenting! Thumbs Up

Model-airplanes/engines are almost always on my mind. I try to remember to mention the hobby to different people that I meet. It only takes a few seconds. You never know when someone might have a lead. There aren't many hobby shops that have survived.. but if you happen to stumble-upon one.. be sure to ask about NOS Cox parts.. or consignments. You might get lucky like I have.. and it's happened more than once in the last couple of years.

roddie Wed Jan 09, 2019 7:21 pm

Marleysky wrote:Nice set up for the task at hand! You’ve given me a rough idea for some tires/wheels with your PVC flywheel. What did you use for the interior of the wheel?

Hi Rene! I made several different size flywheels.. and "discs" for my Cox .049 engines on a CNC router some years ago. The Cox .049 engines all use a 5-40 size machine-screw for the propeller. A standard 1/8" (.125") drill/bore is the correct size to use for a center-hole in a flywheel, for it to balance/spin-true.

If you need more specific info... I'll be glad to provide more. Smile

MBT85 Wed Jan 09, 2019 10:18 pm

roddie wrote:
MBT85 wrote:That’s so awesome roddie!!!
Oh how I wish I’d stumble across ‘forgotten boxes’ like this, but to start with I don’t know where to go looking. Anyway fantastic luck roddie!!

Thanks for commenting! Model-airplanes/engines are almost always on my mind. I try to remember to mention the hobby to different people that I meet. It only takes a few seconds. You never know when someone might have a lead. There aren't many hobby shops that have survived.. but if you happen to stumble-upon one.. be sure to ask about NOS Cox parts.. or consignments. You might get lucky like I have.. and it's happened more than once in the last couple of years.

Thanks heaps roddie, I’ll remember just to ask everyone I meet, not being silly at all, I’ve not spoken about Cox/Nitro engines with anyone I know or have met, I’ve kind of kept it to myself and on this forum. I’m sure there’s a bag/box of engines and parts with my name on it hahaha

getback Thu Jan 10, 2019 6:36 am

Damn i was all set back with my coffee waiting on a tear down and you let it go at a (( got em loosened up ))) ? I got a dollar that says there is castor build up in those / if not after run oiling of who knows what ,,, You know this will slow down the Rs and can bee much harder to start . Babe Bee .049

OK each there own , i got a bunch i need to get started on !! After you get all the stuff out its not that much trouble to do 5-6 in a afternoon Very Happy

NEW222 Thu Jan 10, 2019 6:56 am

Eric, you mentioned something I was thinking about. Mainly, I was wondering about the oil channel in the crankcase. If the engine was loosened up, I am assuming it may have gone back to a slight liquid form and then the addition of oil would keep it going. However, if one was to run the engine, would the heat generated by running the engine along with new fuel liquidy it and kind of self clean the channel? I used to tear an engine right apart but hated doing so just to clean the channel. I have no problems with cleaning a tank or red area. Somehow, to me, it just feels like I cannot get the thrust plate on as far as factory had it and am worried about breaking a screw off in the crankshaft.

getback Thu Jan 10, 2019 8:04 am

New i use a socket head hardened screw and wrench to fit with a old prop to space it , have not broke one yet ( make SURE the splines are aligned as before )) I do no what ur talking about though i have had this happen , on TD and Med. engine there are thrust washers to fill the gap. NOW about that gumming i have seen alot of engines turn over after some heat and run but performance is less . See iof i can find the pic of Jim's engine i cleaned for him it was locked up and i got it to turn over after heat ....

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NICE !!

It would take alot of running to get that out , more trouble than its worth !!

NEW222 Thu Jan 10, 2019 9:12 am

Thanks for the input and thoughts. I guess I'll look for a hardened socket head screw in my travels. Where may I ask you found your screw? Thanks

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