Re: The postman came today

GallopingGhostler Sun May 13, 2018 9:26 am

Wow, what a cache of engines and 2 good snags, the earlier Golden Bee and (drum roll) Tee Dee .051! cheers

Even if the Golden Bee lacks the earlier 3 piece piston, you still have a "Hollywood" set engine. On display or on a plane, it would be photogenically correct for the period. No one would be able to tell the difference on the "silver screen" (YouTube). Wink

Now all you need is a period correct plane to show off your Golden Bee prize! Smoking

May be a 1953 Hal DeBolt DeMECo (DeBolt Model Engineering Company) 34" (865mm) Livewire Kitten? Eyebrows

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**Cribbs74** Sun May 13, 2018 9:51 am

Will do, nice running engine BTW. I am most impressed with the tank seal. Good work, shuts right down when you blocked the vents. It needs a spring, but in no way would I ever put one on! The anodizing is too nice.

rhardcastle Sun May 13, 2018 11:36 am

So I got this on order, I should get it this week off the ebay. Looks to be a rose gold front from a golden bee with a space bug (?) back. I'm hoping that one of these has the 3 piece piston and I can have a complete one.

- Rob

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rhardcastle Sun May 13, 2018 11:43 am

Thermal hopper back plate.

**Cribbs74** Sun May 13, 2018 8:51 pm

rhardcastle wrote:So I got this on order, I should get it this week off the ebay. Looks to be a rose gold front from a golden bee with a space bug (?) back. I'm hoping that one of these has the 3 piece piston and I can have a complete one.

- Rob

I think the Golden Bee will be correct with either piston. Apart from the neat factor, the 3 piece pistons are not that great. Very sloppy ball socket fit with no good way to fix.

The backplate in the pic above doesn’t look like a thermal hopper to me. If it is it’s been heavily modified. Doesn’t matter because you are looking for the snout anyway.

crankbndr Sun May 13, 2018 9:05 pm

Looking at the head you got a shot at the older piston

Mike1484 Sun May 13, 2018 9:20 pm

Looks like a Golden Bee tank cut down with a needle ass. installed . How do you plan to mount it ? I have a three piece piston with a rod that you can have . P.M. me your address and I will send it to you .

Mike1484

**Cribbs74** Sun May 13, 2018 10:01 pm

So I realized I had 2 early Golden Bees. Took some pictures, one has never been run the other has. Neither had the 3 piece. I really think they came with either, but that’s only a semi-educated guess.

I have attached pics so you can see the condition of the 2 examples. You’ll have to excuse my dirty fingernails, been refinishing old chairs all day.

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NEW222 Sun May 13, 2018 10:20 pm

Hey there Ron. Your Golden Bees look very nice. What makes your Golden Bees the early models? Is it the big head on the needle, or different cylinder? I have one and would be fun trying to date it, or at least figure out earely or late model. Thanks.

**Cribbs74** Sun May 13, 2018 10:52 pm

The big head needle is one difference. The backplate color, lack of screen, no made in USA on backplate. Glow heads are early 302-1 on both. Tapered crankcase, no groove for starter spring, thin walled #2 cylinders and the anodizing is a little more pale than the later GB. That’s some of the differences, but I probably forgot one or two.

rhardcastle Sun May 13, 2018 11:14 pm

Good stuff guys, Mike I will pm you, what do you want in return? RC plane stuff all sizes if you need something.

As far as this golden bee I think it has the fill/breather tubes on the backplate, but I have to check again, I got tied up since getting back from a business trip. So I may just have the tank and now the front from the one I am waiting on (shipping says Thursday).

-Rob

rhardcastle Sun May 13, 2018 11:18 pm

Another thing I got that was hidden in the box with a tyco silver hawk that just came was this can. Does anyone know anything about it?

-Rob

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Mark Boesen Sun May 13, 2018 11:34 pm

rhardcastle wrote:So I got this on order, I should get it this week off the ebay. Looks to be a rose gold front from a golden bee with a space bug (?) back. I'm hoping that one of these has the 3 piece piston and I can have a complete one.

- Rob

Nice find, it's definitely not a Thermal Hopper or Space Hopper intake, it's likely from a Avion Shinn.

Here's a good comparison of the early Golden Bee

Mike1484 Mon May 14, 2018 9:20 pm

Don't want or need anything , just your address . I don't have any use for 3 piece pistons .

Mike1484

JPvelo Tue May 15, 2018 6:52 am

https://m.ebay.com/itm/Early-Cox-049-Cox-Cylinder-And-3-Piece-Piston-Single-Bypass-Space-Bug/323255450277?hash=item4b4386baa5:g:mqIAAOSwLh9a-OT~

getback Tue May 15, 2018 9:08 am

LOL i will bee watching this 2 bids already ! Be sure to wish a

rhardcastle Mon May 21, 2018 10:47 pm

Got this late last week.

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Here it is fit to the older golden bee tank. The color is almost identical.

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The needle fixture appears to be a chopped tank with a nva tapped into the venturi fyi.

-Rob

1/2A Nut Tue May 22, 2018 5:08 am

I did the same thing with a Pee Wee but used a RC carb at the end, also bored out the stem a
bit to increase the air/fuel mix.

Mike1484 Tue Jun 05, 2018 11:58 pm

Hi Rob ,

Did you get the piston's ? Hope they work for you .

Mike 1484

rhardcastle Thu Jun 07, 2018 10:36 pm

Hi Mike! I did get those pistons, but as we were leaving to camping for a spell. Sorry I didn't get back to you sooner.
They look like they are in great shape! I ran a few engines with my son today, I hope to get my golden bee working soon, it seems like both halves are in good working order, it will probably just need a new tank gasket and will be ready to go. I will post the results soon!

- Rob

Mike1484 Fri Jun 08, 2018 8:29 pm

Glad you received them . Hope they work out for you .

Mike 1484

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