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Post  rsv1cox on Wed Oct 09, 2019 12:27 pm

Remember this one?

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It's a long story so I'll be brief. It went through a transformation.

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Post  Ricksrod on Wed Oct 09, 2019 12:47 pm

Love it!! Nice refresh. Hope to see it in action soon!!
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Post  1/2A Nut on Wed Oct 09, 2019 2:31 pm

Great referberation job looks like a keeper!
Should be fast, perhaps a 5x4 for better prop clearance.

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Post  Marleysky on Wed Oct 09, 2019 4:47 pm

What a transformation!  That looks super!
What did you use for the cowling? Water soaked balsa, curved to shape?  
Looks darn nice.


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Post  RknRusty on Wed Oct 09, 2019 7:38 pm

Yeeowzer, Bob!
That looks fantastic. It definitely rates the "Rusty Seal of Approval."
You made a nice seamless cowl, and modified the stab/elevator for a more realistic look. I'd love to see a pic of its belly too.

Here's a Google image:
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Are you going to test fly it, or just admire it?
Regarding Eric's prop suggestion, I'm thinking a 5x4 three blade might look and work well. Or even a 4.5x4 prop.

And Happy Birthday to ya too. I hope you enjoyed your big day.
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Post  rsv1cox on Wed Oct 09, 2019 7:45 pm

Easy way, I just sheeted the whole thing then removed most of the hollow logs interior except for the area around the flying tail compensating for the extra weight. I think it came out about even.

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Then replaced the trial flying tail made with a bamboo skewer and brass bushings.

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and moved the bell crank from the wing to the interior of the fuselage. Picture taken before I hogged out most of the balsa.

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I had the bell crank positioned on the other side but realized that I couldn't attach the control lines as there wasn't enough throw to expose the holes outside the fuselage once I attached the wing so it moved it. Otherwise I would have had to paint the fuselage with the lines on it.

I substituted a bench tested Baby Bee for the Space Bug Jr. that came on it. Was going to use a Pee Wee .020 but thought it wouldn't haul it. Bummer, because I had cut the siding for the .020 and it's short for the longer .049. I would have liked a longer more scale like nose.

One I attach the lines it's ready to go.


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Post  rsv1cox on Wed Oct 09, 2019 7:49 pm

Thanks Rusty.  It's not pretty but here it is.  I could have spent more time sanding.

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I appreciate that "Rusty seal of approval:  Smile

And yes, I looked for a gray Cox 5/3 and a safety tip.  I have them, they are just hiding on me.

Yes, I intend to fly it.  Got to see what that flying tail will do.  Going to be hairy at best.

Bob

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Wasn't going to miss the dimensions of the vertical stab. Copied directly on to balsa after correcting for size.

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Post  RknRusty on Wed Oct 09, 2019 8:20 pm

Ah, so it is a stabilator, I wasn't 100% sure from the pictures. That was a good decision, and should give it plenty of authority at any speed. Nice little project.
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Post  dirk gently on Thu Oct 10, 2019 7:09 am

Fantastic rebuild, unbelievable that it's the same model.
Looking forward to the flight video.
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Post  getback on Thu Oct 10, 2019 8:37 am

Nice !! You put the cream in Puff my friend , Good job !! Yes hope to see or hear about the4 flight . Very Happy This Site Rocks!
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Post  rsv1cox on Thu Oct 10, 2019 8:46 am

Cox made at least one model the F-15 Eagle with a flying tail.

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Someone with more courage than me will have to fly it.  That flying tail really digs in.
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Post  Marleysky on Thu Oct 10, 2019 9:49 am

OK! Now I have to ask, what did you use to make the afterburner?  

PS: I think the Cox Crusader was also a flying tail model. This is not mine;

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Post  rsv1cox on Thu Oct 10, 2019 9:55 am

Marleysky wrote:OK! Now I have to ask, what did you use to make the afterburner?  


Second one down Rene....

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Post  NEW222 on Fri Oct 11, 2019 8:29 pm

And I was just going to mention also the detail in the afterburner is a nice touch also. As for flying a flying tailed airplane, I would also not know yet, but my Cox Arctic Trainer / PT-19 is also a flying tail, as well as my Cox F-18.
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Post  rsv1cox on Sat Oct 12, 2019 7:09 am

NEW222 wrote:And I was just going to mention also the detail in the afterburner is a nice touch also. As for flying a flying tailed airplane, I would also not know yet, but my Cox Arctic Trainer / PT-19 is also a flying tail, as well as my Cox F-18.

I should have remembered the PT-19 Chancey.

Yes, a mixture of red and orange Krylon paint.  Tried to simulate the color I used to see when the F4 Phantoms took off from the runway at NAS Jacksonville with the A/B at full glow.

Were I a creative person I would have included a button battery and a red lED right behind it.

BTW - sharp eyes would notice the red decal at the front of the plane in the first picture is different from the one in the third picture.

That decal was a single piece that was intended to surround the intake of the scale plastic Trumpeter model and I applied it that way. I didn't like it but I left it. Finally it got to me, just looked terrible. So after a half hour or so I wetted a paper towel with windex and let it soak for about five minutes. I was amazed that the decal came right off intact. So I cut it in half and applied each section to the side of the model leaving a gap at the top.
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Post  batjac on Sun Oct 13, 2019 12:17 am

rsv1cox wrote:Cox made at least one model the F-15 Eagle with a flying tail.

Cox made many flying stabilator planes. Towards the end there were F-15-a-likes, an F-18-a-likes, and many color/variations and names for the same airframe.  I have a couple of the Wild Wings racers, in red and yellow.  See this thread: https://www.coxengineforum.com/t7585-cox-baron-airplane#95521

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Post  roddie on Sun Oct 13, 2019 10:54 am

I really love the job you did on that poor old model. It's completely transformed! Thumbs Up
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Post  fredvon4 on Sun Oct 13, 2019 11:24 am

while I fully understand the train bug...I am going to really miss these adaptations and resurrections.....

never happen fantasy: house guest of Bob for a summer in MTNS OF WVA....just making
junk into new(er) toys....guns, trains, planes, cars, boats...link trainers, zeppelins, kon tikki, Ark....imagination is only limiter
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Post  rsv1cox on Sun Oct 13, 2019 12:45 pm

fredvon4 wrote:while I fully understand the train bug...I am going to really miss these adaptations and resurrections.....

never happen fantasy:  house guest of Bob for a summer in MTNS OF WVA....just making
junk into new(er) toys....guns, trains, planes, cars, boats...link trainers, zeppelins, kon tikki, Ark....imagination is only limiter

Thanks all, I appreciate it.

Good things do come to an end and I was getting a little out of control with these plastic thingies. I mean, 17 Cox Mercedes tether cars...…….who does that. Sad One day the grand kids will tear them up one by one, and for that I will be happy. For me they served their purpose.

And Fred, it's never over till it's over. There are many summers ahead.

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