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Post  Mark Boesen on Tue Apr 21, 2020 11:54 am

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Post  OhBee on Tue Apr 21, 2020 2:14 pm

That is way cool!....but out of my league technology wise!
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Post  rsv1cox on Tue Apr 21, 2020 2:45 pm

Holy robot pilot figure Mark.

Sent it to my son, he will get a kick out of it as I did.

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Post  balogh on Tue Apr 21, 2020 2:54 pm

I do not make my planes look like an authentic replica of a real thing...no pilot in the cabin etc...just make them simple and as reliable and lasting as possible..it also means I build in only the basic electronic and control parts. Most of my unplanned rekitting landings and loss of planes have been caused by failure of electronics that are not always made to last in an IC engine driven plane but almost always made in China and with that said, there is no need to explain the losses and crashes further.

The most dependable parts of my planes have all been made at 1505 East Warner Ave. in Santa Ana California..guess what these parts are? Very Happy
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Post  andrew on Tue Apr 21, 2020 4:03 pm

I saw this technology back in 2006 in videos from a plane flown by a Frenchman.  He developed his technology using mostly off the shelf components and slaved a two axis camera gimble he built to a two axis piezoelectric gyro epoxied to a pair of VR goggles.  When he looked left, the camera slewed left, etc.  The only component that wasn't off the shelf was the gyro/transmitter interface.  His incentive he said was a life long desire to fly, but the cost was prohibitive for full scale.  He was using a powered glider, like a Radian.  No pilot, but he did have a nice instrument panel and his view looked through the canopy.  He initially tested his setup with an RC car and did say that it took him a while not to get a little queasy when driving it.

I've often wondered why slaved FPV was not commercialized a long time ago for flying.  Gimbled cameras have been used for some time on drones so the swap to planes would have been easy.
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Post  Tee Bee on Tue Apr 21, 2020 4:10 pm

That was pretty cool to watch!
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Post  NEW222 on Tue Apr 21, 2020 7:19 pm

Wow. Don't think I can say anymore than that. It was a fun to watch video. I loved the way how it all functioned with the turns and such. Thanks.
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Post  roddie on Tue Apr 21, 2020 8:22 pm

Our hobby hasn't come to this.
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Post  Dave P. on Tue Apr 21, 2020 10:45 pm

I remember when I was a kid thinking how groovy would it be to have tiny electric motors and batteries with tiny RC equipment that could fly my rubber powered stick models.  

I thought it would be even more far out if I could put in a little bitty camera that I could fly it with.  I also thought that someday we might be able to watch whatever tv show we wanted any time we wanted.

Never even considered that I wouldn't be able to buy toilet paper when that day finally got here.


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Post  Mark Boesen on Tue Apr 21, 2020 10:55 pm

Dave P. wrote:I remember when I was a kid thinking how groovy would it be to have tiny electric motors and batteries with tiny RC equipment that could fly my rubber powered stick models.  

I thought it would be even more far out if I could put in a little bitty camera that I could fly it with.  I also thought that someday we might be able to watch whatever tv show we wanted any time we wanted.

Never even considered that I wouldn't be able to buy toilet paper when that day got here.

Lol, yep, i think many of us did, thats probably why the video stuck a cord!
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Post  batjac on Tue Apr 21, 2020 11:36 pm


This is the RC flying field a couple of miles from my house.

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Post  Davenz13 on Wed Apr 22, 2020 4:32 am

I have to confess "Guilty as charged".
I have a Real Flight RF9 Flight Simulator. This is the one with a R/C unit exactly like you would use to fly an R/C plane. RC Plane

I bought it to brush up on my R/C skills (they weren't all that good in the first place) but I have to admit I spend more time in the cockpit view doing aerobatics, flying through hangers or around trees etc Flying

I would like to get a fpv setup one day but they're not cheap, especially the way our dollar is at the moment
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Post  1/2A Nut on Wed Apr 22, 2020 5:10 am

A strong .07 and up could support the hardware to go FPV.



This one is cool it takes it to the next level real time
data on G/S (ground speed) in mph, amp draw, volt draw etc.
Distance, mah remaining fuel, G readings on the plane even.
Real Sky Views - next move a acro plane going through it's
paces.

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Post  getback on Wed Apr 22, 2020 7:04 am

This is some Cool stuff but way beyond my teck. skills LOL And $$$$.oo I guess people with these skills are in there own realm BUt it is Nice to watch !! Old Bugger
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Post  fredvon4 on Wed Apr 22, 2020 7:19 am

I enjoyed it alot...Thanks Mark for sharing
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Post  davidll1984 on Wed Apr 22, 2020 8:56 am

fpv is fun y dont use mutch my self is to pay a ryde for friends Laughing
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Post  batjac on Thu Apr 23, 2020 12:26 am

I've thought about this a bit waiting for the price of head tracking FPV to become cheap enough for me(and that's pretty cheap!). I'd like to build a nice WWII type cockpit, maybe even WWI, with the arms, and legs. But I think it'd be better to put the fighter cockpit into something slow like a powered glider. I think the sight picture would be more realistic, as a 1/12 scale plane flying at 50MPH across the field would be like flying a fighter at 600MPH. A slower plane would give you a more realistic feel, as you don't have much room to fly at most fields. Turns would be more realistic. Watching the Eurofighter video above, he has less than 10 seconds of flight in one direction before he has to reverse direction again.

But that's just my thoughts.

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Post  andrew on Thu Apr 23, 2020 2:27 am

Just for "The Slow Mark"

Here's one of the early videos with slaved head movement and slow flying.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z_cDEtEnI9M
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Post  batjac on Thu Apr 23, 2020 3:25 am

andrew wrote:Just for "The Slow Mark"

Here's one of the early videos with slaved head movement and slow flying.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z_cDEtEnI9M

Andrew,

That's one of the first FPV videos I saw other than a fixed camera. But I seem to remember something about a bear...

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Post  Surfer_kris on Thu Apr 23, 2020 4:21 am

I do miss the proper engine sound....

Did anyone try FPV from a CL plane?
Not sure if that would be fun or just boring...?
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Post  dirk gently on Thu Apr 23, 2020 7:07 am

Phew, the instruments in the cockpit don't work :/ Lame.
lol!
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Post  andrew on Thu Apr 23, 2020 10:12 am

batjac wrote:

That's one of the first FPV videos I saw other than a fixed camera.  But I seem to remember something about a bear...

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I have two other videos saved from this same series, but could not find them posted elsewhere -- the original links no longer exist. These videos are a little more clear -- don't remember anything about a bear, though. Sad
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Post  Mark Boesen on Thu Apr 23, 2020 1:02 pm

Surfer_kris wrote:I do miss the proper engine sound....

Did anyone try FPV from a CL plane?
Not sure if that would be fun or just boring...?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1LTYAVMy46Y
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Post  ian1954 on Thu Apr 23, 2020 2:21 pm

The control line video Mark just posted is point of view which is really useful for examining and recording your flight. Shugemery also has the camera pointing inboard.

I have tried FPV with goggles on control line and ................. it is easy to get disoriented. There are also a few other problems.

There is a lag between what you see and the planes position, it may only be slight but, typically, the plane will cover say 60+ ft a second.

The biggest problem I had was if the lines went slack, I had three attempts and gave up.

This is an example of forward facing camera (not FPV) - warning ........ steady stomach needed.


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Post  batjac on Thu Apr 23, 2020 3:09 pm

ian1954 wrote:This is an example of forward facing camera (not FPV) - warning ........ steady stomach needed.

I always wondered how it would look if, instead of pointing forward, one mounted the camera on the inboard wing canted inward.  Would it look more like the scenery is coming at you rather than going across your vision left to right?  I never got around to trying it.

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