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Post  Levent Suberk Mon Jan 18, 2021 3:26 am

I think to open several holes on muffler and fill inside with cotton packing for a more effective one. Will it be quitier? Muffler is newer version: https://coxengines.ca/cox-.049-muffler.html
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Post  getback Mon Jan 18, 2021 5:24 am

I think it will become wet with exhaust castor and choke the engine down / maybe loose steel wool? Happy New Year
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Post  Levent Suberk Mon Jan 18, 2021 6:28 am

Good idea.
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Post  NEW222 Mon Jan 18, 2021 6:56 am

Very interesting topic. As well, I see both sides to the possible outcomes. Good for Mifflin, but at the same time, possibly bad for starving / choking the engine. I guess if it does hypothetically work, one may be able to replace the cotton between flights to keep it from getting overly saturated. As well, if it was me, it may be worth a shot at running it with different amounts of cotton.
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Post  MauricioB Mon Jan 18, 2021 8:52 am

Hello Levent, I would not  No! use cotton there, because on the one hand it will saturate quickly, it can get hot and it can even ignite by the engine's flame output from the exhaust port. You are at risk of fire.
Be careful with steel wool, if the threads are fine, it is also ignited by exhaust flames.
You must use metallic material, but thick enough in diameter so that it does not catch fire or melt,
If you want to silence the cylinder, use a perforated iron plate - steel belt, as some Cox engines originally came, and that will lower the noise a lot, although you will also lose some power.
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Post  Cribbs74 Mon Jan 18, 2021 11:00 am

Either of those two materials steel wool/cotton would end up being ingested by the engine.

The stock Cox muffler is pretty effective as is.


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Post  davidll1984 Mon Jan 18, 2021 11:06 am

If you want lowes noise posible try sort of silencer try m'y way Filling cotton inside of muffler? 16109810
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Post  Levent Suberk Mon Jan 18, 2021 11:12 am

I want to achieve a very quiet muffler. Thanks for answers.

I found flame resistant, square section cord. They are made from asbest or teflon and used for stove lids. Perhaps it works.
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Post  Levent Suberk Mon Jan 18, 2021 11:13 am

Hi David, I want to make it more compact, without a silencer. Thanks.
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Post  Levent Suberk Mon Jan 18, 2021 11:18 am

Like this:
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https://www.lenehans.ie/vitcas-stove-fire-rope.html
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Post  Lukemiester Mon Jan 18, 2021 11:24 am

Maybe fill it with some sort of fiberglass? (Insulation, tape, something like that), but as noted before, it could get sucked into the engine.... how to retain it...
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Post  coxaddict Mon Jan 18, 2021 2:08 pm

Hi Levent,
If you can find window screen made of aluminum you can try cutting a strip of it, roll it up to be able to fit in the muffler. The many layers would help disperse the sound waves without creating too much back pressure.
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Post  davidll1984 Mon Jan 18, 2021 2:16 pm

Dirt bike use som sort of like that stuf we call in french laine d'amiante its pact in last parts of the tune called pipe its silencer and its Not obstructed al around the tube wit lots of hole tink if u try that Not going To work use just smaler tube od inside the exaust wit lots of smal hole and dril in the exaust couple more hole Not as mutch like the one inside and it wil work sure dont fil the gap wit that stuf very bad if the engine ingestion if y was u y try Somting difrent
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Post  davidll1984 Mon Jan 18, 2021 2:20 pm

Folow coxadict Good solutions coper screen To wil have chance To work dont use coton What?
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Post  Levent Suberk Mon Jan 18, 2021 2:21 pm

coxaddict wrote:Hi Levent,
If you can find window screen made of aluminum you can try cutting a strip of it, roll it up to be able to fit in the muffler.  The many layers would help disperse the sound waves without creating too much back pressure.  

Very good idea Very Happy
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Post  OhBee Mon Jan 18, 2021 2:24 pm

The smaller the holes,the faster it will plug up with exhaust residue and gag the engine.  We constantly had to burn that crap out of plugged up Moped exhaust systems with a torch so they would run again!
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Post  Lukemiester Mon Jan 18, 2021 2:44 pm

When i attempted my amazon rc boat with a cox, i made an underwater exhaust for it, but when i would start it outside the water, i noticed lots of noise came from the engine itself and not all from the exhaust.
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Post  Mark Boesen Mon Jan 18, 2021 4:30 pm

MauricioB wrote:Hello Levent, I would not  No! use cotton there, because on the one hand it will saturate quickly, it can get hot and it can even ignite by the engine's flame output from the exhaust port. You are at risk of fire.
Be careful with steel wool, if the threads are fine, it is also ignited by exhaust flames.
You must use metallic material, but thick enough in diameter so that it does not catch fire or melt,
If you want to silence the cylinder, use a perforated iron plate - steel belt, as some Cox engines originally came, and that will lower the noise a lot, although you will also lose some power.
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I'm pretty sure the cylinder in photo was an early version designed to prevent fires.

Packing course steel wool has been used by modelers for years, not a big gain and why you'd bother, but not unheard of.
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Post  roddie Mon Jan 18, 2021 8:52 pm

getback wrote:I think it will become wet with exhaust castor and choke the engine down / maybe loose steel wool? Happy New Year

Yea! that's it! steel wool.. or fiberglass stuffed in the header-pipe(s).. "glass-packs".. Cool  ...... I'll try running some in my header-pipes.

edit; the exhaust-oil will drip-through the header; creating an acoustic-cushion (remember extrude-hone?) for the passage of the exhaust-note(s).. and drip-out of the pipe(s).. unless a sump is devised. Collecting/containing exhaust-oil wastes could help promote the further use of IC model engines at the flying-clubs.
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Post  sosam117 Mon Jan 18, 2021 10:46 pm

What about a muffler like that MauricioB has?
It an old Tatone muffler and it look like a muffler like for bigger engines?

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MauricioB wrote:A good friend a long time ago gave me this accessory, because it must be something interesting to use, although when I do, I will put a pressure pressurizer for the fuel tank.
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Post  Oldenginerod Tue Jan 19, 2021 3:01 pm

I've used this stuff in small stationary engine mufflers before. Just a common pot scourer.
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Post  Levent Suberk Tue Jan 19, 2021 4:27 pm

It is best to try a rolled strip of fine screen mesh inside of muffler as coxaddict suggested.

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