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Post  cstatman Tue Jun 29, 2021 10:38 am

i watch eBay, way too much... for kits.
I've noticed so many Guillows kits with, well, .... very high prices.

so I looked on their website to find? they have released MOST of their collection, higher prices, but laser cut.

I do not know why I'd spend $50-ish for an old kit, when I could get the new one for $35-ish - laser cut.

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https://www.guillow.com/modelkits.aspx
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Post  Surfer_kris Tue Jun 29, 2021 11:48 am

I haven't purchased any of their laser cut kits, but in general I do prefer the older style of kits. With the new laser cutting technology they tend to make as much as they out of each sheet of balsa, and thus treat the balsa as if it was homogeneous material independent on the grain direction. That means that the parts can have a strange grain direction and therefore be very weak. This method would be okay for cutting parts from plywood, but not for balsa parts. In some kits the stringers are no longer made in the right way, i.e. they just cut them out of the same soft balsa sheet as the rest. They then bend and twist as they are released from the balsa, plus you have to form the wing leading and trailing edges your self etc.

The soot from the laser cutting is another issue, it can affect the adhesion of the glue and it doesn't look nice on see-through structures.

Just my two cents, perhaps I'm simply getting to old...
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Post  getback Tue Jun 29, 2021 2:51 pm

Not getting old Just Been There and Done That !! Your right all that applies a lot of the time and is and issue when building . Doh!
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Post  944_Jim Tue Jun 29, 2021 8:21 pm

Anyone here have a copy of the Avenger plansheet? Is like to do a study on it before commiting to trying to convert a kit to CL flying. I'm thinking a tankless Pee Wee, 1/4 oz external tank, and 27 foot lines.

Thanks in advance,
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Post  Levent Suberk Wed Jun 30, 2021 7:39 am

944_Jim wrote:Anyone here have a copy of the Avenger plansheet? Is like to do a study on it before commiting to trying to convert a kit to CL flying. I'm thinking a tankless Pee Wee, 1/4 oz external tank, and 27 foot lines.

Thanks in advance,

https://www.hippocketaeronautics.com/hpa_plans/details.php?image_id=6693&mode=search&sessionid=ftivu1a7cur19788rmpm2uinb4
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Post  944_Jim Wed Jun 30, 2021 11:15 am

Thanks much, Levent.

I guess I should have been more specific...kit #506.
It is still currently in production, so plans sites shouldn't have a copy yet. I'll take a look at the one you indicate to see how it will scale up to 21"-23" WS.


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Post  getback Thu Jul 01, 2021 5:31 am

That's just a little over my pay grade to cut out Fireworks
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