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Post  EXModelEngines Sat Jan 08, 2022 10:19 am

In the lot of engines we acquired, as I go through them in detail, there are certain ones that are customized or unnamed. Any detail or information on identifying is appreciated.

Fox Combat Special .36 - Appears to have little use and is the MK-IV circa 1980/1981. The odd part about this one is the 'S.E. CO.' stamped on the lug as shown. I'm assuming this was some aftermarket configuration?

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Unknown Engine with Muffler - Looks to be around a .20 sized engine, split case. Maybe a Fox-like copy?

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K&B Torpedo .32 Black Head - The note with the engine indicated the black head version of the .32 only had 12 made but I'm a little dubious of this.

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Super Cyclone - Ignition version although the head and lugs indicate 'GMA Custom', 'Chrome', and '2' where the cylinder meets the case.

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Post  fredvon4 Sat Jan 08, 2022 10:44 am

I will ask on Stunt hanger about the Fox 36 combat.    S.E. CO. does not ring a bell relating to the folks who modified those well regarded combat engines

It was not unusual for a competition combat guy to have 10 or 20 planes ready for a weekend with rich guys having at least every plane with an engine--poor kids might only have one or two engines--most competitors had several spare engines with various pedigrees and customizations. Many guys marked each engine as to his code about it...that said, I think S.E. CO. probably is some person and not a personal code of mods applied

I had good luck selling my last few Fox Mk IVs on RCG for about a $100 each....That 36 CS is a highly regarded engine wink wink
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Post  crankbndr Sat Jan 08, 2022 10:47 am

K&B case looks like # 7,8,9. Mounting lugs look removed would have hade the serial #

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Post  fredvon4 Sat Jan 08, 2022 10:49 am

GMA was George Aldridge (sp?) a well regarded engine guy

I am sure some OLD TIME stunt guy would like that engine

Edit in...Stunt Hanger has Dane Martin member, a young guy playing with antique spark ign stunt engines
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Post  EXModelEngines Sat Jan 08, 2022 11:13 am

Thanks for the detail guys!

Fox Combat: Those were my thoughts as well, and appreciate you checking over at Stunt Hanger. I believe there are about 5 NIB combat engines (29 and 36) and a small handful of of used ones. RCG may well be a better place (or Stunt Hanger?) to sell versus eBay.

Cyclone: Thanks for the information on the engine. I should probably dig out my account info for Stunt Hanger - would rather sell it to someone over there who would appreciate it.

K&B: Yeah, I forgot to mention that lugs were ground off, I'd assume for a special application for whatever the modeler was doing. I ended up in the same place you did on the engine encyclopedia. This one will likely just go up on eBay as I've no idea of value and its clearly been modified.
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Post  fredvon4 Sat Jan 08, 2022 11:54 am

Remember on RCG there are two areas to sell engines... The control line and free flight is the better one

I know you know free no fee at RCG, also for free is the stunt hangar classifieds section...and if I was you a notice of the sale and link in the COMBAT sub forum
and another resource for many of your unusual engines if FlyingLines.org classifieds section...small donation required ...The Pacific North west has a LOT of flying members in a small area from Salem up to Seattle and east to Spokane/Wenatchee/Yakima

If for no other reason than exposure to your web site, I suggest a small donation and a brief advert for ExModel in flying lines classifieds section....You would be amazed at frequent questions about cox engines where Paul Gibeault or I mention Bernie or you as a resource. Almost all did not know you guys exist

Stunt Hangar--Beware the members are touchy of the classified RULES so do not cross offer on RCG and E-bay any engines for sale on stunt hangar

Please PM me with a list and ask price for all your combat engines. When or if time allows

I assume new daddy life has settled down and now routine?

Lastly I have several new Boxed Cox engines to sale. Or perhaps trade..2 Teedee 049, a Medallion w/muffler 049 and a dragon fly
The boxes are typical with torn front corners...I think all with instructions, decals and 2 wrenches
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Post  Cribbs74 Sat Jan 08, 2022 12:31 pm

Second engine shown is a Fox .25 or .19. Later BB model. Good engine. They are usually unmarked, sometimes the displacement is stamped on the lug.
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Post  ffkiwi Sat Jan 08, 2022 2:22 pm

Cribbs74 wrote:Second engine shown is a Fox .25 or .19. Later BB model. Good engine. They are usually unmarked, sometimes the displacement is stamped on the lug.


Agreed-and were configurable by the user to side, rear exhaust should the user require it, simply by rotating the upper cylinder assembly. This was achievable by having the casting transfer passages arrangement symmetrically. That being said they're usually encountered in the factory assembled side exhaust arrangement. IIRC the ability to reconfigure was one of the selling points in their advertising....  

More info here: http://sceptreflight.com/Model%20Engine%20Tests/Fox%2019BB%20RC%20%282%29.html

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Post  EXModelEngines Sat Jan 08, 2022 5:26 pm

Thanks for the detail on the Fox guys!
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