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Berryman's parts cleaner works great but when thing get serious
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Berryman's parts cleaner works great but when thing get serious
you break out the crock pot.
When receiving a castor (or otherwise) locked engine, to free it I always start with the mildest solution first. Turn by hand, no. Apply a little heat gun heat, no. Heat gun plus Remoil, no. 30 minute soak in Berryman's, no. Berryman's plus heat, plus Remoil no. This thing is totally locked, mechanical fault maybe. Rotostarter or something broken or both.
Crock pot, three hour soak, mount on a board to get better leverage. Back in the crock pot to heat back up. Heat is not friendly to plastic or wooden propellors (or fingers) and I get movement on both the throttle sleeve and the crankshaft. Easy back and forth, some oil, more back and forth. Soapy water held under and turned to expel the anti freeze/oil. Compressed air blowout. Flood with Remoil, lots of back and forth flipping until excess oil is expelled. Clean and reinstall the glow head.
Smooth movement on the throttle sleeve and crankshaft with compression.
![Berryman's parts cleaner works great but when thing get serious P1012915](https://i.servimg.com/u/f43/19/15/28/33/p1012915.jpg)
![Berryman's parts cleaner works great but when thing get serious P1012916](https://i.servimg.com/u/f43/19/15/28/33/p1012916.jpg)
![Berryman's parts cleaner works great but when thing get serious P1012914](https://i.servimg.com/u/f43/19/15/28/33/p1012914.jpg)
![Berryman's parts cleaner works great but when thing get serious P1012917](https://i.servimg.com/u/f43/19/15/28/33/p1012917.jpg)
![Berryman's parts cleaner works great but when thing get serious P1012918](https://i.servimg.com/u/f43/19/15/28/33/p1012918.jpg)
![Berryman's parts cleaner works great but when thing get serious P1012919](https://i.servimg.com/u/f43/19/15/28/33/p1012919.jpg)
I had ideas of getting rid of the crock pot, glad I didn't or this rather rare engine might have been a permanent lump.
When receiving a castor (or otherwise) locked engine, to free it I always start with the mildest solution first. Turn by hand, no. Apply a little heat gun heat, no. Heat gun plus Remoil, no. 30 minute soak in Berryman's, no. Berryman's plus heat, plus Remoil no. This thing is totally locked, mechanical fault maybe. Rotostarter or something broken or both.
Crock pot, three hour soak, mount on a board to get better leverage. Back in the crock pot to heat back up. Heat is not friendly to plastic or wooden propellors (or fingers) and I get movement on both the throttle sleeve and the crankshaft. Easy back and forth, some oil, more back and forth. Soapy water held under and turned to expel the anti freeze/oil. Compressed air blowout. Flood with Remoil, lots of back and forth flipping until excess oil is expelled. Clean and reinstall the glow head.
Smooth movement on the throttle sleeve and crankshaft with compression.
![Berryman's parts cleaner works great but when thing get serious P1012915](https://i.servimg.com/u/f43/19/15/28/33/p1012915.jpg)
![Berryman's parts cleaner works great but when thing get serious P1012916](https://i.servimg.com/u/f43/19/15/28/33/p1012916.jpg)
![Berryman's parts cleaner works great but when thing get serious P1012914](https://i.servimg.com/u/f43/19/15/28/33/p1012914.jpg)
![Berryman's parts cleaner works great but when thing get serious P1012917](https://i.servimg.com/u/f43/19/15/28/33/p1012917.jpg)
![Berryman's parts cleaner works great but when thing get serious P1012918](https://i.servimg.com/u/f43/19/15/28/33/p1012918.jpg)
![Berryman's parts cleaner works great but when thing get serious P1012919](https://i.servimg.com/u/f43/19/15/28/33/p1012919.jpg)
I had ideas of getting rid of the crock pot, glad I didn't or this rather rare engine might have been a permanent lump.
rsv1cox- Top Poster
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Re: Berryman's parts cleaner works great but when thing get serious
That is a very good step by step systematic procedure! I really like my Berryman's Parts cleaner, glad I bought it. It's great for external gunk and goo removal, but heat is still your best friend when trying to get moving parts to move after years of hardened castor
locks them in place. Oh I've broke one or two con-rods (or crank pins) thinking..Oh, She's comming loose! OOps..., guess not! In one of my last teardowns I used my trusty Wen soldering gun to "spot heat" the snout of the crankcase to heat the goo on the inside of the case between the crankshaft and case. Or in a extreme case I got the rear cover unscrewed and applied heat via the soldering tip up inside the crankcase in the bottom skirt of the piston until the 2 or 3 drops of oil on the top of the piston started to bubble! that'll break the castor grip! Berrymans will discolor aluminum if parts are left in too long. I had a cylinder with a throttle sleeve stuck on it, I wasn't worried about discoloring, so I left it soak for 2 days before the sleeve was loose enough to turn.
HEY! I forgot to mention in the last batch of Bee's I bought there were a couple of Unique ones.
The first one was a pristine version of the "taper head" screwed backplate Bee. The second was just a backplate that has the "notched" screen indentations holding the screen in place. SO, Cox must have used that for a short while, cause I checked all my others and this was the first one I've found that had the notches like the one you have. Cool!
locks them in place. Oh I've broke one or two con-rods (or crank pins) thinking..Oh, She's comming loose! OOps..., guess not! In one of my last teardowns I used my trusty Wen soldering gun to "spot heat" the snout of the crankcase to heat the goo on the inside of the case between the crankshaft and case. Or in a extreme case I got the rear cover unscrewed and applied heat via the soldering tip up inside the crankcase in the bottom skirt of the piston until the 2 or 3 drops of oil on the top of the piston started to bubble! that'll break the castor grip! Berrymans will discolor aluminum if parts are left in too long. I had a cylinder with a throttle sleeve stuck on it, I wasn't worried about discoloring, so I left it soak for 2 days before the sleeve was loose enough to turn.
HEY! I forgot to mention in the last batch of Bee's I bought there were a couple of Unique ones.
The first one was a pristine version of the "taper head" screwed backplate Bee. The second was just a backplate that has the "notched" screen indentations holding the screen in place. SO, Cox must have used that for a short while, cause I checked all my others and this was the first one I've found that had the notches like the one you have. Cool!
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Re: Berryman's parts cleaner works great but when thing get serious
Yes, I thank you every time I take one of these apart. I also use a soldering gun. Saved me many an engine peg and needle. I muscled off a needle once and broke the tip off right in the spray bar. Never again! I used heat to remove the needle first, it blocks one of the engine mounting screws.
![Berryman's parts cleaner works great but when thing get serious P1012920](https://i.servimg.com/u/f43/19/15/28/33/p1012920.jpg)
![Berryman's parts cleaner works great but when thing get serious P1012921](https://i.servimg.com/u/f43/19/15/28/33/p1012921.jpg)
I did not want to disassemble this airplane, externally in perfect condition but the locked engine forced me to. Got inside and found the nipple on the fuel tank broken par for the course on these. Everyone I have has been broken. Only cure if you want to keep it original. Otherwise it's drill out the pipe and replace with an aerosol can straw inserted all the way to the bottom then picked up a sixteenth and glued. Using the original nipple I just glue it in.
![Berryman's parts cleaner works great but when thing get serious P1012924](https://i.servimg.com/u/f43/19/15/28/33/p1012924.jpg)
![Berryman's parts cleaner works great but when thing get serious P1012922](https://i.servimg.com/u/f43/19/15/28/33/p1012922.jpg)
![Berryman's parts cleaner works great but when thing get serious P1012923](https://i.servimg.com/u/f43/19/15/28/33/p1012923.jpg)
SOP run a wire through the NVA and check the glow plug.
![Berryman's parts cleaner works great but when thing get serious P1012925](https://i.servimg.com/u/f43/19/15/28/33/p1012925.jpg)
![Berryman's parts cleaner works great but when thing get serious P1012927](https://i.servimg.com/u/f43/19/15/28/33/p1012927.jpg)
![Berryman's parts cleaner works great but when thing get serious P1012928](https://i.servimg.com/u/f43/19/15/28/33/p1012928.jpg)
Got quite a fleet of these going, and one NIB.
![Berryman's parts cleaner works great but when thing get serious P1012926](https://i.servimg.com/u/f43/19/15/28/33/p1012926.jpg)
![Berryman's parts cleaner works great but when thing get serious P1012920](https://i.servimg.com/u/f43/19/15/28/33/p1012920.jpg)
![Berryman's parts cleaner works great but when thing get serious P1012921](https://i.servimg.com/u/f43/19/15/28/33/p1012921.jpg)
I did not want to disassemble this airplane, externally in perfect condition but the locked engine forced me to. Got inside and found the nipple on the fuel tank broken par for the course on these. Everyone I have has been broken. Only cure if you want to keep it original. Otherwise it's drill out the pipe and replace with an aerosol can straw inserted all the way to the bottom then picked up a sixteenth and glued. Using the original nipple I just glue it in.
![Berryman's parts cleaner works great but when thing get serious P1012924](https://i.servimg.com/u/f43/19/15/28/33/p1012924.jpg)
![Berryman's parts cleaner works great but when thing get serious P1012922](https://i.servimg.com/u/f43/19/15/28/33/p1012922.jpg)
![Berryman's parts cleaner works great but when thing get serious P1012923](https://i.servimg.com/u/f43/19/15/28/33/p1012923.jpg)
SOP run a wire through the NVA and check the glow plug.
![Berryman's parts cleaner works great but when thing get serious P1012925](https://i.servimg.com/u/f43/19/15/28/33/p1012925.jpg)
![Berryman's parts cleaner works great but when thing get serious P1012927](https://i.servimg.com/u/f43/19/15/28/33/p1012927.jpg)
![Berryman's parts cleaner works great but when thing get serious P1012928](https://i.servimg.com/u/f43/19/15/28/33/p1012928.jpg)
Got quite a fleet of these going, and one NIB.
![Berryman's parts cleaner works great but when thing get serious P1012926](https://i.servimg.com/u/f43/19/15/28/33/p1012926.jpg)
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