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Post  GermanBeez Fri Oct 28, 2011 1:46 pm

...yeah, the build is goin pretty good (except the parts fit like they were made by a- no offense- blind person Neutral )
i've just painted the wing and stabilizer, going to do the rest tomorrow, i'll post some pictures of my progress.
please, if you have any advice how high in relation to the wings the motor should be mounted or stuff like that,
help is kindly appreciated Surprised
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Post  nitroairplane Fri Oct 28, 2011 2:08 pm

GermanBeez wrote:...yeah, the build is goin pretty good (except the parts fit like they were made by a- no offense- blind person Neutral )
i've just painted the wing and stabilizer, going to do the rest tomorrow, i'll post some pictures of my progress.
please, if you have any advice how high in relation to the wings the motor should be mounted or stuff like that,
help is kindly appreciated Surprised

Put some weight on the outside wing.
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Post  GermanBeez Fri Oct 28, 2011 2:21 pm

yup, i already put a washer that came with the plane just for that purpose on there. i'm going to use dacron line,
altough its got a lot more drag than the dteel wire, but i dont want it to fly that fast anyway.
btw, did you try out your warhawk yet?
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Post  nitroairplane Fri Oct 28, 2011 2:23 pm

GermanBeez wrote:yup, i already put a washer that came with the plane just for that purpose on there. i'm going to use dacron line,
altough its got a lot more drag than the dteel wire, but i dont want it to fly that fast anyway.
btw, did you try out your warhawk yet?

I am not going to fly the warhawk yet as i am a CL newb.
but i flew my red one.
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Post  GermanBeez Sat Oct 29, 2011 6:27 am

mornin guys, this is how my garden looks like at the moment Smile
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here are my wings and stabilizers...
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...and the fuselage, which is drying in the paint box
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i'll assemble it today and get some images up for you as soon as i can!
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Post  nitroairplane Sat Oct 29, 2011 6:39 am

Nice did it come with Decals?
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Post  GermanBeez Sat Oct 29, 2011 7:37 am

yeah, old air force ones!
all right, wing and fuselage are one:
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i didnt paint the engine mount to prohibit any paint sticking to the engines backplate.
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Post  gcb Sat Oct 29, 2011 8:03 am

GermanBeez wrote: i didnt paint the engine mount to prohibit any paint sticking to the engines backplate.

GB,

You NEED to paint the backplate to protect the plywood from fuel and oil. That is one area that needs to be sealed well so it can take a lot of vibration.

One of the things you need to know about the old Scientific kits is that they used a lot of common parts on various planes. One of the common pieces was the firewall.

Your plane is looking good!

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Post  GermanBeez Sat Oct 29, 2011 9:42 am

oh sorr<, i didnt explain it right.
i put 6 LAYERS of grain sealer on there, which is totally fuel proof. the rest of the plane has three layers of sealer,
and one layer of paint.
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Post  microflitedude Sat Oct 29, 2011 9:47 am

What engine will you be using? SureStart? Noticed the slot for the choke tube.
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Post  GermanBeez Sat Oct 29, 2011 11:27 am

i'm using my 1956 Babe Bee. you're right it is designed fore surestarts, but they are just SO ugly...
Babe Bees got style!
btw, i'm almost finished, i'll post pictures when the tail rudder is on.
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Post  nitroairplane Sat Oct 29, 2011 5:52 pm

You will get pretty short flights with a babe bee I use a little 1/3 oz wedge tank on mine.
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Post  GermanBeez Sun Oct 30, 2011 6:11 am

i think a 2 minute flight will be enough for me the first few times. i can still put my medallion on there, just gotta
remove the throttle ring.
so, here it is, fully assembled and ready to go:
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Post  hlsat Sun Oct 30, 2011 6:22 am

GermanBeez hi.
Good looks but the angle I see vertical rudder.
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Post  nitroairplane Sun Oct 30, 2011 7:00 am

Very nice Dave but you should have put Arne in there Smile
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Post  microflitedude Sun Oct 30, 2011 9:02 am

nitroairplane wrote:Very nice Dave but you should have put Arne in there Smile

Or the classical Snoopy and Woodchuck. Laughing
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Post  nitroairplane Sun Oct 30, 2011 9:45 am

microflitedude wrote:
nitroairplane wrote:Very nice Dave but you should have put Arne in there Smile

Or the classical Snoopy and Woodchuck. Laughing

My first CL plane has those two in it Smile
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Post  GermanBeez Sun Oct 30, 2011 1:29 pm

oh, i like the idea with arny, lthough it isn't a CHOPAAAAAAAHHH!!!!!!!!!
@ hlsat
hi, do you mean the red and white fin?
it is set to the right on purpose, so the plane steers slightly out of the flying circle and keeps the lines tight!
glad you like my little piece of wood
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Post  RknRusty Sun Oct 30, 2011 2:03 pm

GermanBeez wrote:
it is set to the right on purpose, so the plane steers slightly out of the flying circle and keeps the lines tight!
glad you like my little piece of wood
A couple of washers under each of the inboard mounting screws to point the engine's thrust angle to the right is important too. I promise it greatly enhances your control. She looks like a great flier. Pretty engine too.

60 or 30 minute epoxy is the gold standard for fuel proofing the firewall.

If/when the rear section of the fuselage breaks too many times, shorten it so the stab is an inch and a half behind the wing and she'll be a competent stunt trainer.

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Post  hlsat Mon Oct 31, 2011 5:38 am

GermanBeez wrote:oh, i like the idea with arny, lthough it isn't a CHOPAAAAAAAHHH!!!!!!!!!
@ hlsat
hi, do you mean the red and white fin?
it is set to the right on purpose, so the plane steers slightly out of the flying circle and keeps the lines tight!
glad you like my little piece of wood

Yes this mean.
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Post  GermanBeez Tue Nov 01, 2011 8:24 am

RknRusty wrote:
GermanBeez wrote:
it is set to the right on purpose, so the plane steers slightly out of the flying circle and keeps the lines tight!
glad you like my little piece of wood
A couple of washers under each of the inboard mounting screws to point the engine's thrust angle to the right is important too. I promise it greatly enhances your control. She looks like a great flier. Pretty engine too.

60 or 30 minute epoxy is the gold standard for fuel proofing the firewall.

If/when the rear section of the fuselage breaks too many times, shorten it so the stab is an inch and a half behind the wing and she'll be a competent stunt trainer.
all right, thanks for the tips!
there's only one thing that confuses me:
how the hell do you do a loop???
wouldn't the control lines get twisted if you don't have a 360 degrees turnable wrist? Smile
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Post  shell shock Tue Nov 01, 2011 9:51 am

Chuck Norris invented flight when he jumped.

Thats a sweet looking plane. Diggin the colours
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Post  GermanBeez Tue Nov 01, 2011 10:08 am

yeah, i always wondered why the air force picked those colours for their plane...its not like it's "standing out of the fleet" or anything Smile
btw, are you sure you're going to let yours stay without a proper paint job?
i mean, a natural finish is nice, but the plane looks sort of...well..naked Wink
just my opinion, your business!
but i'm glad i ave these yellow tornado props...thats the cherry on the cake..
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Post  microflitedude Tue Nov 01, 2011 10:20 am

GermanBeez wrote:
RknRusty wrote:
GermanBeez wrote:
it is set to the right on purpose, so the plane steers slightly out of the flying circle and keeps the lines tight!
glad you like my little piece of wood
A couple of washers under each of the inboard mounting screws to point the engine's thrust angle to the right is important too. I promise it greatly enhances your control. She looks like a great flier. Pretty engine too.

60 or 30 minute epoxy is the gold standard for fuel proofing the firewall.

If/when the rear section of the fuselage breaks too many times, shorten it so the stab is an inch and a half behind the wing and she'll be a competent stunt trainer.
all right, thanks for the tips!
there's only one thing that confuses me:
how the hell do you do a loop???
wouldn't the control lines get twisted if you don't have a 360 degrees turnable wrist? Smile

Rusty wrote this -

"Leave the lines twisted. With dacron you are safe up to 5 loops, so they say, and when you're experienced you can unwind it by doing outside loops. But it's not necessary. Just remember to unwind it before your next takeoff. They won't bind, you can't even feel they're twisted. When they get all oily they are better. I've put 8 or 10 twists in them and they still work fine. That Bee may cut off when you try an outside loop, so unless you do it on the first 3 laps don't try it."
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Post  nitroairplane Tue Nov 01, 2011 11:44 am

Cool I think I may try a loop this weekend.
Btw I wax my Dacron for less drag on smaller .010 models.
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