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Post  mitchg95 Wed Dec 21, 2011 5:03 pm

ya that might be a good idea, i have tried starting it, it did start to fire but the fuel backed out of the carb... so ya it did start
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Post  microflitedude Wed Dec 21, 2011 5:13 pm

Does yours use a proprietary glow head or a short glow plug?

It would be easiest to just buy a new engine. They go for 5 - $10 on Ebay.
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Post  mitchg95 Wed Dec 21, 2011 5:14 pm

the glow plug was shorter than the other glow plugs i have
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Post  SuperDave Wed Dec 21, 2011 5:47 pm

Mitch:

If you don't mind me saying do, you have a lot to learn before jumping into this hobby. Your best choice a small engine would be in the Cox family where there any number of parts vendors that may supply the parts you'll probably need. Here are two:

www.exmodelengines.com -the owner's name is Matt
and
www.coxinternational.com -the owner's name is Bernie

Both Matt and Ernie are fequent contributors here on the forum and both are known for being very helpful with all sorts of Cox matters like parts.

Please go to their sites and see what they have to offer.

Buying an old, out of production relic will only lead to problems as their parts are often NLA (no longer available). Glo-plugs may be adapted from other engines but many parts can't i.e. gaskets, pistons, cylinders, crankshafts etc.

Further, keep reading this forum for the information to be found here. There's a bunch.
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Post  mitchg95 Wed Dec 21, 2011 6:02 pm

ok
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Post  Kim Wed Dec 21, 2011 6:42 pm

mitchg95 wrote:ok

Since you already have the engine, you COULD experiment with it by taking one of your longer plugs, putting plug gaskets on it it 'till it is close to the length of the original plug and giving it a try. This will work only if your newer plugs do not have an "Idle Bar" (the coil end should look just like the original---if your new plug has a bar welded in front of the coil, you shouldn't try this).

Before you attempt starting it, turn it over slowly by hand to make sure it has clearance, then see if it's start. It probably won't run the greatest, but may crank up and give you some thing to experiment with.

You need good, fresh fuel, with 15% nitro or more, and a 5-3 or 6-3 prop in good condition.

Just my thoughts.
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Post  mitchg95 Wed Dec 21, 2011 8:50 pm

Kim wrote:
mitchg95 wrote:ok

Since you already have the engine, you COULD experiment with it by taking one of your longer plugs, putting plug gaskets on it it 'till it is close to the length of the original plug and giving it a try. This will work only if your newer plugs do not have an "Idle Bar" (the coil end should look just like the original---if your new plug has a bar welded in front of the coil, you shouldn't try this).

Before you attempt starting it, turn it over slowly by hand to make sure it has clearance, then see if it's start. It probably won't run the greatest, but may crank up and give you some thing to experiment with.

You need good, fresh fuel, with 15% nitro or more, and a 5-3 or 6-3 prop in good condition.
lol i tried it with a 4.5 prop

Just my thoughts.
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Post  microflitedude Wed Dec 21, 2011 9:11 pm

Can you purchase the "short" plugs they use? Mine is in perfect condition physically, but if it ever burns out....
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Post  Kim Wed Dec 21, 2011 9:52 pm

Kinda doubt it but I've been surprised before. That's another item on my list of experiments...in that seeing if one of the short O.S. plugs can be shimmed up and used. Simple test, but I keep forgetting to try it.

Also, M.E.C.O.A. has head adapters for Wen Mac's but I believe they're for later models. Need to check that too, as I've got some of the Wen Mac / Testors Engines.
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Post  microflitedude Wed Dec 21, 2011 10:04 pm

I have a Wenmac MKIV.
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Post  Mark Boesen Wed Dec 21, 2011 10:08 pm

'Short' plugs are out there, surf eBay for Swanson Fire Ball, Fox makes them as well as others, in a pinch three plug washers will make a 'long' reach plug 'short'
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Post  nitroairplane Thu Dec 22, 2011 4:41 am

Mark Boesen wrote:'Short' plugs are out there, surf eBay for Swanson Fire Ball, Fox makes them as well as others, in a pinch three plug washers will make a 'long' reach plug 'short'

Don't OS make short plugs?
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Post  mitchg95 Thu Dec 22, 2011 12:39 pm

oops i was incorrect in one of my other post i said it was a wenmac .049 mkxi, it is actually an earlier wen mac .049 it is a mark 2
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Post  Kim Thu Dec 22, 2011 3:58 pm

OK...posted in on it's own in the Off Topic Section, but figured to repeat it here since this thread is what caused it to happen.

Got a Wen Mac Mark-III to run just fine on an O.S. #8 Short Plug. I just used the gasket that came with the plug ('bout the same number of threads showing as the original).

The fuel was New Sig 25%, with a 5-3 gray prop.

Held good in the high 13.000's on RPM...with an occasional surge up past 14,000.

Think the O.S. Plugs might be a bit expensive...haven't check yet. I've had this one for a while and don't remember what I paid for it, but figure to get some more, and save the originals.

That's it from the Skunk Works !
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Post  Kim Thu Dec 22, 2011 4:21 pm

Just checked with my Local Hobby Shop...he has O.S. Short/Medium Heat #8 Glowplugs for $6.99 + tax. So, not too bad.
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Post  nitroairplane Thu Dec 22, 2011 4:21 pm

I like OS because they last long compared to some others in my experience.
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Post  nitroairplane Thu Dec 22, 2011 4:22 pm

Kim wrote:Just checked with my Local Hobby Shop...he has O.S. Short/Medium Heat #8 Glowplugs for $6.99 + tax. So, not too bad.

Oh yeah I PMd you Kim.
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