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Post  balogh Thu Dec 31, 2015 7:50 am

About a year ago I built a plane for my 010-s called Speedy but it did not really work out. It was  beta version sold by Selecthobbies.

I also had a Lil Stik (aka Ugly Stik) in my attic so I decided yesterday morning to finish it. Here it is and not ugly at all. The 010 fits it's appearance quite well.

2 channels for ailerons and elevator. I will maiden it in 2016 it is pretty cold here today.

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Post  1/2A Nut Thu Dec 31, 2015 8:06 am

Covering job looks great way to go! You should have a nice stable flying plane to work with here.
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Post  balogh Thu Dec 31, 2015 8:26 am

Thank you! The monocote is warped here and there, but overall it looks fine. I will do some hairdrying work on it though.
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Post  Kim Thu Dec 31, 2015 9:08 am

Beautiful little plane !!!
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Post  balogh Thu Dec 31, 2015 9:16 am

Thank you Kim. I saw a couple of them on youtube videos flying very handy..I hope the new year breaks with a bit milder temp than the freeze today. It is not easy to hold the radio and handle the joysticks when you are shivering. A nitro engine of this size cannot be started either with gloves on.

But I will post a video of the maiden flight soon.
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Post  dckrsn Thu Dec 31, 2015 9:19 am

........ anything but ugly. Beautiful work.
Hope she flies a good as she looks.
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Post  fit90 Thu Dec 31, 2015 9:29 am

Beautiful little plane. I hope you get to fly it soon.
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Post  xplaneguy Thu Dec 31, 2015 9:45 am

SWEET!!!! Best of the luck with the maiden. Smile
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Post  getback Thu Dec 31, 2015 11:21 am

NICE!!! That should make a good flier and easy to see , bee looking forward to the report . getback Babe Bee .049
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Post  balogh Thu Dec 31, 2015 11:50 am

This time I jammed as much gear (aileron servo and the main switch) into the wing center as possible....the stomach is big enough for the tank, the battery, receiver and the elevator servo only...
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It weighs - with the tank empty - 5,458 oz i.e. 154.74grams only. The 010 is good, in my experience, to fly planes up to at least 260 grams (my Roaring 20 refers here) so it should not be a problem for the 010 to go and mess around with it in the air...lets see hopefully tomorrow - freeze permitting...

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Post  roddie Thu Dec 31, 2015 1:52 pm

The James Beam should help to warm things up a little! Happy New Year Andras!

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Post  balogh Thu Dec 31, 2015 3:10 pm

Thanks Roddie the same to you... Happy New Year
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Post  cox24711 Thu Dec 31, 2015 10:11 pm

WOW!
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Post  KariFS Mon Jan 04, 2016 2:53 am

Well it's a lot prettier than my GWS Slow Stick. Neither may not be a marvel of aerodynamic engineering but yours is a work of art, mine is more like waste of perfectly good insulation and coat hanger material... Well, one has to learn with something, right? NO way my skill&reflexes would be adequate for flying anything faster than a glider or a park flyer. I actually managed to bend the fuselage (and the prop axle of course) on the Slow Stick yesterday DAMMIT! Well, it stalled and dove nose first on ice due to sudden loss of power, the drive gear gave up just as I blipped it to full "throttle" and pulled up from a slow&low pass...

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Post  balogh Mon Jan 04, 2016 3:33 am

Do not give up Kari, the Lil/Ugly Stik and the Das Not Ugly family (you will find a few videos on them on youtube) are seen to be a well navigable bunch of birds, even if they are not aerodynamical breakthroughs with their blunt, large-surface firewalls.

Mine came in a kit with the wings and fuselage assembled, uncoated (without instruction on assembly), so I just had to install the servos, find out how to connect ailerons with the servos, elevator, and add a multi-purpose firewall then monocote it.

I maidened it with the 010 and it flies well, but my head-monted camera did not want to work and it was way too cold over the weekend for me to handle all technical challenges in the field at -10C...

So the video will come a bit later.
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Post  balogh Sat Jan 16, 2016 11:49 am

getback wrote:NICE!!! That should make a good flier and easy to see , bee looking forward to the report . getback Babe Bee .049

Finally I managed to video the 2nd maiden flight of the LilStik today....very chilly and windy weather, the TD010 fought in the headwind like a real lion, but the plane flies well balanced, and reacts beautifully to the 2-channel controls; a short video was also shot ...(my camera ran short on juice so more to come later):

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Post  getback Sun Jan 17, 2016 8:20 am

cheers cheers cheers I could see that one a lot better than the other plane , It looked to fly well good deal man , youshould have some fun with this one for sure . Thanks Andres , Eric bounce
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Post  Marleysky Sun Jan 17, 2016 12:06 pm

Andras, I like your little plane. You said it came as a kit, wings and fuse pre assembled?
Is it the same as this one, on Outerzone?

http://www.outerzone.co.uk/plan_details.asp?ID=2331

I do need to build something for the traveling engine, and this looks like it would do nicely.  
Thanks for the pictures and video!
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Post  balogh Sun Jan 17, 2016 12:39 pm



Marleysky wrote:Andras, I like your little plane. You said it came as a kit, wings and fuse pre assembled?
Is it the same as this one, on Outerzone?

http://www.outerzone.co.uk/plan_details.asp?ID=2331

I do need to build something for the traveling engine, and this looks like it would do nicely.  
Thanks for the pictures and video!

Thanks Rene,

the picture in the above link resembles my LilStick, it came as a kit. Mine has a wavy traveling edge on the ailerons and elevator, and does not have a dihedral in the wing spar.

I am not sure where it originates from, I bought it on ebay. It was introduced by the ebayer as a plane for a 020 engine, but it flies well with the 010 too. I fashioned the firewall to accommodate a TD 020 too, though.
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Post  balogh Sun Jan 17, 2016 12:42 pm

getback wrote:cheers cheers cheers I could see that one a lot better than the other plane , It looked to fly well good deal man , youshould have some fun with this one for sure . Thanks Andres , Eric bounce

Thanks, Eric,

I went to the field today again, but the wind was so chilly that my hands with the radio heavily trembled and I decided not to fly. (Gloves are unthinkable when handling such a tiny engine)..Too bad, I have to wait till next weekend when I have the time to go flying again..
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Post  1/2A Nut Sun Jan 17, 2016 1:51 pm

Sports gloves for driving are tight fitting enough to perhaps work.

A SWR (sheet wing racer) version of the Lil Stick would help speed things up with the TD .010

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Post  706jim Sun Jan 17, 2016 10:03 pm

I was going to comment that the large firewall would blanket a lot of that tiny propeller's thrust and so it might not fly.

But what do I know............

(It seems to fly just fine despite my concerns)
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Post  1/2A Nut Mon Jan 18, 2016 12:05 am

Yea part of their charm but could clean up the nose a bit so the wee lil prop can have a chance of
moving some air past the air frame with less obstruction.

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Post  balogh Fri Mar 10, 2017 11:50 am

balogh wrote:About a year ago I built a plane for my 010-s called Speedy but it did not really work out. It was  beta version sold by Selecthobbies.

I also had a Lil Stik (aka Ugly Stik) in my attic so I decided yesterday morning to finish it. Here it is and not ugly at all. The 010 fits it's appearance quite well.

2 channels for ailerons and elevator. I will maiden it in 2016, it is pretty cold here today.

Happy New Year to you all Lil and ugly stik 20151216

The postman just delivered the Testors 4 inch 3-bladed props I bought from Bernie. I tached one of them on my TD020 mounted on my Lil Stick and measured 19,4k with my 20% nitro-flavoured home blended fuel. I guess it will unload in the air at around 21k, i.e. just a bit below the peak performace of the TD020, so it seems to be a good marriage.

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I am not sure for what engine size Testors produced the 4" dia 3-bladed prop, though...it is definitely small for the 049 COX engines (even the reedies) and I thought it was going to be just large for the TD020...in fact it is not. And the engine and prop size ratio just looks fine too, with the added benefit of less obstructed flow from the prop by the blunt-nose of the Lil Stick:

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