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Post  Cribbs74 on Sat Dec 22, 2018 4:46 pm

I decided to spend an hour this afternoon roughing this little guy out. It may not be as hard as I originally thought.

My biggest concern is whether or not I need a flywheel or will that Don’s speed wheel suffice.

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Post  rsv1cox on Sat Dec 22, 2018 5:14 pm

Cut and try Ron, but seems like it should on that engine.

I love the thing. Saw one on American Pickers some months ago. $$$$$$$$$

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Post  Cribbs74 on Sat Dec 22, 2018 6:18 pm

Yeah, I could never justify spending that much money on a real one.

I thought about making a Frog, but the teardrop would be quicker.

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Post  NEW222 on Sat Dec 22, 2018 7:26 pm

Looks like you got a real good start on that car there.
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Post  rsv1cox on Sun Dec 23, 2018 9:01 am

Going through some of my old engines Ron I found this:

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No flywheel.
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Post  getback on Sun Dec 23, 2018 9:35 am

I see Ron is going for speed , good start brother ,, i did get my controler out to find out i need more batteries LOL Jeep Friends/Meeting
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Post  NEW222 on Sun Dec 23, 2018 10:30 am

So, I have to ask. It the one pictured just a wheel screwed directly to the engine with the prop screw rather than a propeller?
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Post  roddie on Sun Dec 23, 2018 3:48 pm

NEW222 wrote:So, I have to ask. It the one pictured just a wheel screwed directly to the engine with the prop screw rather than a propeller?

If it is; you might try to see if it will run that way first. Even if the drive-wheel is lightweight.. it may be enough for the .020.

There are DIY plans for IC engine-powered model-car starter-boxes on the web. They use an electric-motor with a friction-wheel on the output-shaft. There may also be a 2nd "idler" wheel/roller.. similar to a miniature chassis-dynamometer. A foot or knee-actuated power-switch allows 2-hands on the model. Designing/building one for 1/4A size models could be interesting. It certainly shouldn't cost too much to build.

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Post  Cribbs74 on Sun Dec 23, 2018 5:59 pm

Right now the wheel is just mounted on in place of a prop. The picture I took was roughly 1hr’s worth of work. Everything is in the planning stage at this point.

The wheel feels just shy of 1/2oz. I will be running it before mounting it. It may be enough to act as a flywheel however, it’s not balanced so I can only speculate as to how it will run. I’ll probably do that in the next day or two.

Right now all I have into it is the cost of the engine which I think is $15. Everything else is just stuff I had laying around. I did buy a can of paint for it today so add $5.

I am not entering this in the contest as it’s a conflict of interests. I am doing it just to show how easily it can be done. Hoping to drum up some competition!

Are you going to enter Roddie? I was thinking that I really could have used some of your O-ring aluminum wheels.
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Post  roddie on Sun Dec 23, 2018 6:41 pm

Cribbs74 wrote:Right now the wheel is just mounted on in place of a prop. The picture I took was roughly 1hr’s worth of work. Everything is in the planning stage at this point.

The wheel feels just shy of 1/2oz. I will be running it before mounting it. It may be enough to act as a flywheel however, it’s not balanced so I can only speculate as to how it will run. I’ll probably do that in the next day or two.

Are you going to enter Roddie? I was thinking that I really could have used some of your O-ring aluminum wheels.

It's good to "stage" components.. and visualize how the model might look. Regarding the aluminum wheels and O-ring tires that I've made; Let me know what size you need.. and I'll see if I have anything close.
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Post  Cribbs74 on Sun Dec 23, 2018 6:46 pm

Thanks Roddie, I will measure tonight. They may be too light though.

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Post  Cribbs74 on Sun Dec 23, 2018 9:29 pm

1.75 on the rear And 1.25 up front.
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Post  DrCox on Mon Dec 24, 2018 10:56 am

rsv1cox wrote:Going through some of my old engines Ron I found this:

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No flywheel.

Engine for a Wen Mac Automite?
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Post  rsv1cox on Mon Dec 24, 2018 12:05 pm

I'm not sure but I think it is. Came to me with some other engines. Which gets me to thinking about my response to Ron. His .020 might need a flywheel.

The nut and spacer sure looks like Automite.

This one had a nasty engine in it. These enclosed tether car engines sure do get hot.

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Post  NEW222 on Mon Dec 24, 2018 12:17 pm

The best I can say and come up with on this one is.... Damn!
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Post  Cribbs74 on Mon Dec 24, 2018 12:22 pm

I tried to run it up on prime last night, it did run, but the engine itself is an unknown as it was bought at a swap meet and never disassembled and cleaned. I will be doing that shortly. The wheel attached is pretty sizeable for that .020, it probably weighs 10x more than the standard .020 prop.

I am still mocking things up, so I haven’t been serious about the engine yet.

Funny thing, I watched a you tube video last night of the full sized teardrop tether. I found out what I thought was the rear end is actually the front. The fat end is the front of the car...

To me that doesn’t look right. So I am doing it my way, pointed end out front. My luck is that it is designed that way for a reason. It will probably become airborne. I’ll add some weight to the nose just in case.

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Post  Oldenginerod on Mon Dec 24, 2018 4:03 pm

Regarding starting a car engine, I've seen it where people turn a bicycle upside-down, spin up the rear wheel with the pedals and touch the wheel of the car against the tyre. Seems to work pretty well.
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Post  Cribbs74 on Mon Dec 24, 2018 4:11 pm

Thanks Rod, I was hoping you would chime in.

The bicycle is exactly what I am going to use. Years ago I read an old RC modelling book that had a picture of a guy starting a Jerobee car using a bike wheel. It stuck with me. Any thoughts on the flywheel?

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Post  Cribbs74 on Mon Dec 24, 2018 11:34 pm

Some progress, I have the layout done, need to notch the lid to accept the cylinder and attach the axle and design bridle mounts. I have some aluminum stock that should work well for that. After that it’s break it all down, paint and re-assemble.

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Post  NEW222 on Tue Dec 25, 2018 1:05 am

Looking good, and coming along nicely.
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Post  getback on Tue Dec 25, 2018 8:01 am

Looking good Ron , how did you get the extra wood out around the engine mount ? That is strange about it going (running ) what looks like backwards ?!
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Post  Cribbs74 on Tue Dec 25, 2018 8:07 am

Dremel. Lot’s of sawdust!

Yeah, check out this link. Looks like it runs with the fat end up front.

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Post  getback on Tue Dec 25, 2018 8:25 am

lol! lol! I bet there was .. Man that thing was turning up darn good But didn't sound like a .020 to me LOL I wish they still did these races around , that wood bee a lot of fun !! This Site Rocks!
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Post  KariFS on Tue Dec 25, 2018 11:07 am

If you look at the teardrop car and think of a dragster (it kinda looks like one of those front-engine machines from the ’60s), intuition tells it should go ”pointy end forward”. Especially if you think performance = rear wheel drive Wink

Aerodynamically though, it is more efficient going with the blunt end first. Kinda like a fish, or raindrop. Take a look at ”belly tank lakesters” from the Golden era of motoring:

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Blunt end first, pointy end back just as it travels under the belly of a P-39. More about that particular beast:

https://bringatrailer.com/2009/11/25/there-aint-no-rules-1948-era-bellytank-lakester/

Either way, great work Ron Thumbs Up If you had a reed engine on it you could run it first one way, then the other and see which one is faster Very Happy



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Post  Cribbs74 on Fri Dec 28, 2018 5:38 pm

Thanks Kari, yeah a reedy would have made it simpler and would have allowed running in either direction, but the TD is more powerful.

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