Cox Engines Forum
You are not logged in! Please login or register.

Logged in members see NO ADVERTISEMENTS!


COX QRC restoration (was: Help with identifying an engine) Cox_ba12




COX QRC restoration (was: Help with identifying an engine) Pixel

Log in

I forgot my password

Search
 
 

Display results as :
 


Rechercher Advanced Search

Latest topics
» Dodge Viper - What a waste but brilliant marketing
by roddie Today at 6:46 pm

» COX .020 POWERED SPEEDSTER
by TD ABUSER Today at 6:32 pm

» **VOTE-ON-THE-NEXT-COX-ENGINE-OF-THE-MONTH** (November 2024)
by roddie Today at 6:13 pm

» Brushless motors?
by rsv1cox Today at 4:53 pm

» Free Flight Radio Assist
by rdw777 Today at 4:28 pm

» Cox 020 PeeWee rebuild questions
by balogh Today at 4:15 pm

» L4 Grasshopper
by latole Today at 3:43 pm

» PAW 80 and possible use
by fit90 Today at 8:36 am

» Music-wire bending tools (DIY video)
by 1975 control line guy Today at 8:32 am

» Ultrasonic Cleaners??
by sosam117 Yesterday at 11:26 am

» My CA or CyA (super glue) allergy
by rsv1cox Yesterday at 9:52 am

» My Pseudo killerbee.
by rsv1cox Yesterday at 7:04 am

Cox Engine of The Month
October-2024
MauricioB's

"Cox .049 Circa 1975, custom."



PAST WINNERS
CEF Traveling Engine

Win This Engine!
Gallery


COX QRC restoration (was: Help with identifying an engine) Empty
Live on Patrol


COX QRC restoration (was: Help with identifying an engine)

Go down

COX QRC restoration (was: Help with identifying an engine) Empty COX QRC restoration (was: Help with identifying an engine)

Post  dirk gently Tue Oct 29, 2019 7:53 am

Hello friends!

I just bought this 049 COX engine, and I have a few questions:
1. What is it?
2. Is the 6x4 Thimble Drome prop suitable for this engine?
3. One of the mounting eyelets on the backplate is cracked in the middle. Can I solder it together?

COX QRC restoration (was: Help with identifying an engine) Img_2010


Last edited by dirk gently on Fri Nov 08, 2019 7:12 am; edited 1 time in total
dirk gently
dirk gently
Gold Member
Gold Member

Posts : 430
Join date : 2012-02-03
Age : 42
Location : Poznań

Back to top Go down

COX QRC restoration (was: Help with identifying an engine) Empty Re: COX QRC restoration (was: Help with identifying an engine)

Post  Marleysky Tue Oct 29, 2019 10:09 am

Looks like a Cox “QRC” to me. Missing the spring clip that covers the priming hole in the muffler. I don’t think the ear on the backplate can be soldered, but some have used JB weld epoxy with some success.
Here’s the factory instruction sheet from the CEF info files.

https://dbabd7f0-a-62cb3a1a-s-sites.googlegroups.com/site/nitroengine/QRC.pdf?attachauth=ANoY7co5C5N_MKc_vl_masGAxHOz9CIxnhX0cQWI_k1PP_k2keJ5jAFGBviMT-JUzDikBQ-lGQYsbTPcX9Ur7HxjMYvr2GsmTd0zCqOVRBuZtyRpXBnD3ZRjb7_seUEKRiRfsPe71v7bThyNkfmkfWVpKi8i0v4aOjbmN7NtyDBhLyS9jY-qr0RnL8r4qVzDzMKNzM9mGDuHYX6-1Sea_NWtobL2P7qK6g%3D%3D&attredirects=0

Whoa! That’s a long link! lol! probably quicker to click on the links on the LH side of the web page.

The recommended prop size for the engine is 6”x3”.
Marleysky
Marleysky
Top Poster
Top Poster

2022 Supporter

Posts : 3618
Join date : 2014-09-28
Age : 71
Location : Grand Rapids, MI

Back to top Go down

COX QRC restoration (was: Help with identifying an engine) Empty Re: COX QRC restoration (was: Help with identifying an engine)

Post  Marleysky Tue Oct 29, 2019 10:21 am

Did a quick search for “backplate fix”. Lots of stuff shows up, but heres the best one from our own Fred:
COX QRC restoration (was: Help with identifying an engine) 499e4e10
Marleysky
Marleysky
Top Poster
Top Poster

2022 Supporter

Posts : 3618
Join date : 2014-09-28
Age : 71
Location : Grand Rapids, MI

Back to top Go down

COX QRC restoration (was: Help with identifying an engine) Empty Re: COX QRC restoration (was: Help with identifying an engine)

Post  Levent Suberk Tue Oct 29, 2019 10:59 am

Levent Suberk
Levent Suberk
Diamond Member
Diamond Member

Posts : 2257
Join date : 2017-12-24
Location : Türkiye

Back to top Go down

COX QRC restoration (was: Help with identifying an engine) Empty Re: COX QRC restoration (was: Help with identifying an engine)

Post  NEW222 Tue Oct 29, 2019 4:42 pm

I myself have used JB Weld in the past with success. But, from what you are describing, your 'ear' just has a small crack in it and is not really missing any parts? If so, I would myself, just use it as is. I have a couple engines now that are missing just one ear and run them being only mounted by 3 screws, again with no problems. I do check them often for tightness so as not to seperate from the mount.
NEW222
NEW222
Top Poster
Top Poster

Posts : 3896
Join date : 2011-08-13
Age : 46
Location : oakbank, mb

Back to top Go down

COX QRC restoration (was: Help with identifying an engine) Empty Re: COX QRC restoration (was: Help with identifying an engine)

Post  fredvon4 Tue Oct 29, 2019 4:46 pm

I detest the plastic back plates

over time I bid on and won, or BIN several "lots" of cox engines....most time 10 or more in the $4~$6 per engin range. now have a robust supply of original back plates in the various fill vent configurations

fyi....one ear with a crack will still hold fast if you put a small washer under the screw head

fredvon4
fredvon4
Top Poster
Top Poster

2022 Supporter

Posts : 4012
Join date : 2011-08-26
Age : 69
Location : Lampasas Texas

Back to top Go down

COX QRC restoration (was: Help with identifying an engine) Empty Re: COX QRC restoration (was: Help with identifying an engine)

Post  dirk gently Wed Oct 30, 2019 7:45 am

Hello,

thank you for your valuable tips.
My mounting "ear" is not missing or fragmented, there's only a crack at the, for lack of better word, apex. This can (barely) be seen in the picture, just next to the end of the exhaust pipe. I will probably just leave it as is, and use a washer I tend to use them anyway, specifically to prevent the "ears" from cracking).

I intend to remove the starter spring "clutch", but leave the spring itself, and use it by engaging with the prop directly.

I take it that "RC" in "QRC" doesn't mean it has a throttle?

On a related note, the engine manual says you can remove extra head gaskets once the engine breks in sufficiently to hold RPM throughout the entire run. Does it mean that if I have an engine that is struggling with keeping constant RPM, a possible solution would be to add an extra gasket? Wouldn't the reduced compression ratio affect the output power?
dirk gently
dirk gently
Gold Member
Gold Member

Posts : 430
Join date : 2012-02-03
Age : 42
Location : Poznań

Back to top Go down

COX QRC restoration (was: Help with identifying an engine) Empty Re: COX QRC restoration (was: Help with identifying an engine)

Post  Marleysky Wed Oct 30, 2019 3:48 pm

No, unfortunately the RC in the QRC doesn’t mean Remote Control. I think the Q was to indicate Quiet, because of the added muffler.
COX QRC restoration (was: Help with identifying an engine) Ba9c5f10

If you remove the starter spring “Clutch” you will need a different starter spring, as the starter spring off the clutch hex drive won’t catch on the prop without the spring extending to the prop. Unless you just bend it.

Yeah, adding head gaskets to a overcompressed (new) engine will lower the compression to obtain a strong steady run.
Marleysky
Marleysky
Top Poster
Top Poster

2022 Supporter

Posts : 3618
Join date : 2014-09-28
Age : 71
Location : Grand Rapids, MI

Back to top Go down

COX QRC restoration (was: Help with identifying an engine) Empty Re: COX QRC restoration (was: Help with identifying an engine)

Post  dirk gently Fri Nov 08, 2019 7:23 am

I worked on this engine yesterday. Obviously, it is pretty beat up, but the inside was really worse than the outside.
I opened the engine up to overhaul it, and the tank was almost completely filled with green goop. I'm not kidding, it was a 1/8'' layer of the thing, much worse than the Golden Bee (a.k.a. "Green Bee") I worked on previously. I tried soaking it in petroleum ether, but it made little difference. Finally, and acetone bath and an old toothbrush did the trick.

I replaced the gaskets and the cracked fuel tube, weirdly enough, the reed assembly looked like new, so I left it alone. I removed the spinner, starter string and the muffler for a "no-nonsense" look. I installed a proper (no pun intended) 6x3 prop. I found the glow head was working and the compression was good. The cylinder is a dual-port one.

After reassembling the engine though, I discovered it wouldn't turn freely. Upon further investigation the crank had a lot of resistance and was turning roughly, and the drive plate was pressed against the crankcase, with next to no axial play. I took the drive plate out, cleaned and oiled the parts, and reassembled everything with a bit more play.

After that the engine seems fine and flipping the prop produces the nice "plop" sound we all love so much. I will be test-running this engine in a few days.

COX QRC restoration (was: Help with identifying an engine) Img_2011
dirk gently
dirk gently
Gold Member
Gold Member

Posts : 430
Join date : 2012-02-03
Age : 42
Location : Poznań

Back to top Go down

COX QRC restoration (was: Help with identifying an engine) Empty Re: COX QRC restoration (was: Help with identifying an engine)

Post  getback Fri Nov 08, 2019 8:04 am

Looks Good , let us know how she runs i am thinking if it slows down after some running the crank may have to bee removed for some cleaning of the castor build up you spoke of . Huh...
getback
getback
Top Poster
Top Poster

2022 Supporter

2023 Supporter

Posts : 10415
Join date : 2013-01-18
Age : 67
Location : julian , NC

Back to top Go down

COX QRC restoration (was: Help with identifying an engine) Empty Re: COX QRC restoration (was: Help with identifying an engine)

Post  dirk gently Fri Nov 08, 2019 8:15 am

I did remove the crank, wasn't really dirty, just dry and lacking oil, and the drive plate was pressed in too tight.
dirk gently
dirk gently
Gold Member
Gold Member

Posts : 430
Join date : 2012-02-03
Age : 42
Location : Poznań

Back to top Go down

COX QRC restoration (was: Help with identifying an engine) Empty Re: COX QRC restoration (was: Help with identifying an engine)

Post  getback Fri Nov 08, 2019 8:29 am

Cool i must have misread , most time i do the same if it is in really bad shape . Thumbs Up Happy running !! Beer Cheers
getback
getback
Top Poster
Top Poster

2022 Supporter

2023 Supporter

Posts : 10415
Join date : 2013-01-18
Age : 67
Location : julian , NC

Back to top Go down

COX QRC restoration (was: Help with identifying an engine) Empty Re: COX QRC restoration (was: Help with identifying an engine)

Post  Sponsored content


Sponsored content


Back to top Go down

Back to top

- Similar topics

 
Permissions in this forum:
You cannot reply to topics in this forum