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Post  MauricioB Mon Nov 08, 2021 4:50 am

Hello guys, I share with you a new acquisition that is waiting for it to arrive.
I am always looking on the web, which can appear here in the national market (Argentina) and sometimes interesting engines appear, this time I found a Cox Golden Bee .049 at a price of U $ S 20, so I took it .
I will share with you God through the process of cleaning this engine and operation.
If anyone wants to share data on possible year of manufacture or any other comment related to the engine, they are welcome to learn more about it.
Greetings to all!
(These images are taken from the seller himself exposed on the web)
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Post  sosam117 Mon Nov 08, 2021 6:33 am

Love the Golden Bee!
The Golden Bee was my 4th Cox engine.
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It first saw duty in a Top Flite P-40 Warhawk in the mid 1960's.
Later on my dad and I moved up to R/C airplanes the start of 1970 and my Golden Bee was installed in my first R/C plane which was a Carl Goldberg kit --- the Jr. Falcon.
That poor engine struggled to lift that heavy plane (Kraft "brick" radio and 4 cell "AA" Alkaline pack) into the sky.

I have a semi kit of the Jr. Falcon I picked up a few years ago and intend to build it and used lighter radio equipment.
With the lighter weight gear and better building skills, the Golden Bee should fly the newer plane better than the old one from the 1970's.

She's all cleaned up and waiting to fly!

Have fun MauricioB with your Golden Bee nd have many good flights on it like mine!
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Post  getback Mon Nov 08, 2021 8:18 am

Hello Friend , You will have to take it apart to I.D. the year The Wikipedia says 1958 Golden Bee (Cat#120 - manufactured Oct 1957 – Jan 1980)

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The original Golden Bee was a Baby Bee that has a larger (8cc), stunt vented fuel tank and has been anodized gold. The larger tank allowed the planes to fly longer while the stunt vents allowed the airplanes to fly inverted without fuel running out or the engine cutting out. The first versions of the Golden Bee had a single bypass intake port and same size backplate venturi opening (0.0625") as the Babe Bee but later versions had a 0.082" venturi opening to 11/64" at the reed valve while the Babe Bee was 9/64". This was the secret to its slightly higher power output. The 1969 and later RC version with throttle sleeve had two bypass #1 cylinder making them slightly more powerful again to make up for power losses due to the exhaust throttle sleeve.[14] Link > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cox_model_engine Should bee a Fun engine to run/fly RC Plane
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Post  sosam117 Mon Nov 08, 2021 5:44 pm

getback wrote:Hello Friend , You will have to take it apart to I.D. the year The Wikipedia says 1958 Golden Bee (Cat#120 - manufactured Oct 1957 – Jan 1980)

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The original Golden Bee was a Baby Bee that has a larger (8cc), stunt vented fuel tank and has been anodized gold. The larger tank allowed the planes to fly longer while the stunt vents allowed the airplanes to fly inverted without fuel running out or the engine cutting out. The first versions of the Golden Bee had a single bypass intake port and same size backplate venturi opening (0.0625") as the Babe Bee but later versions had a 0.082" venturi opening to 11/64" at the reed valve while the Babe Bee was 9/64". This was the secret to its slightly higher power output. The 1969 and later RC version with throttle sleeve had two bypass #1 cylinder making them slightly more powerful again to make up for power losses due to the exhaust throttle sleeve.[14]  Link > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cox_model_engine  Should bee a Fun engine to run/fly RC Plane

I have photos of both the early Golden Bee and the R/C version.
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The Golden Bee with the black prop driver I have had since 1968.
The R/C Golden Bee I have had since 1974. Bought it with my paper route money ( I was in 8th grade)
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Post  MauricioB Tue Nov 09, 2021 4:03 am

Thank you very much dear friends sosam117 and Eric for all the information you share here.
Mr. sosam117, his engines look fantastic, congratulations.
I will receive mine in these days, as soon as I have news, I will share it with you here.
Hugs!
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Post  MauricioB Sun Nov 14, 2021 6:55 am

I took the job of disassembling, cleaning, and conditioning its parts.
The cylinder is a single transfer.
After assembling it, I started and the engine works perfect.
I hope you enjoy the video!
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Post  sosam117 Sun Nov 14, 2021 7:08 am

MauricioB,
Great Job! Thumbs Up

Nice video too. Thumbs Up

I just love listening to those "Golden Oldies" sunny

afro Also reminds me of my days when I had big hair afro
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Post  MauricioB Sun Nov 14, 2021 7:17 am

sosam117 wrote:MauricioB,
Great Job! Thumbs Up

Nice video too. Thumbs Up

I just love listening to those "Golden Oldies" sunny

afro Also reminds me of my days when I had big hair afro

Thank you very much sosam117, I'm glad you like how this Golden Bee works. Greetings!
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Post  getback Sun Nov 14, 2021 7:42 am

She will Sing ! Good run , what size prop did you use ?
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Post  Ken Cook Sun Nov 14, 2021 8:20 am

I also own the R/C Golden Bee. You don't see this engine often. I've never run mine. I've owned it for probably 30 years. It looks as nice as the one in the picture. When I first purchased it, I thought someone added the throttle sleeve. I then came across a ad for the engine.
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Post  NEW222 Sun Nov 14, 2021 12:39 pm

Good job Mauricio! I love that sound, and it seems to run very nicely.
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Post  rsv1cox Sun Nov 14, 2021 2:40 pm

An enjoyable time, disassembling and cleaning a Cox engine. Nice run. Now you get to clean it all over again. Smile Yes, Thumbs Up.

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Post  MauricioB Sun Nov 14, 2021 8:16 pm

getback wrote:She will Sing ! Good run , what size prop did you use ?
Ohh, that data as I forgot to put it there in the video, it is really important, here goes Eric:
RMP: 12500
Propeller: MA 6 x 3.5
Fuel: Castor20% + Nitro25% + Methanol55%
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Post  MauricioB Sun Nov 14, 2021 8:19 pm

Thanks Eric, Ken, New222 and Bob, for leaving your comments ...!
Bob, that's right, hahaha I Love This Forum!
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Post  MauricioB Mon Nov 15, 2021 8:19 pm

Small Cox Logo So I decided to place a throttle ring and test the Cox Golden Bee engine, I can assure you that its gear is very noble!
It is a really beautiful engine! Small Cox Logo


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Post  jmendoza Fri Nov 19, 2021 12:06 pm

Nice video, Looks to be a mid to late 1970s version. I'm not entirely sure what year they switched from a #2 cylinder to the #1 dual bypass cylinder. The front drive plate is the later style.
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Post  Kim Sat Nov 20, 2021 6:40 am

Golden Bees Rule!!!!

Especially in the nose of an old Control Liner that refused to die!

(The ancient Top Flite prop is for display purposes only!)

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Post  rsv1cox Sat Nov 20, 2021 7:44 am

Nice one Kim,  I love those keepers.

Mauricio my first Golden Bee came in a blister pack.  A major step up for me.  Proud moment, probably went in a hollow log and disappeared over time.

Since probably my most bought Cox outside of the Babe Bee.  For a long time I kept print-outs of my ebay buys, got a binder full.  A good referance for time of purchase and price paid.  Lot's of Golden Bees in there.  

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Golden Bees still grace my P-38 and Tri-motor, but many more just sit in display cases.  Early to late.

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Post  Ken Cook Sat Nov 20, 2021 10:10 am

There's many variations of Golden Bee's. Some are very gutless but others offer Black Widow like performance. After reading this thread I went to take a peek and look for the ones I own. I have them somewhat scattered and my dad just offered me up a few that he had. When I lived at home, we had a box of this stuff and we would just grab whatever we needed. I remember he gave me a Lil Satan. He said build it and I will give you a new engine which was the Golden Bee. I remember the packaging, white cardboard background and black Cox lettering. My Lil Satan was neat as could be. The wings were metallic blue and red with a white fuse, Golden Bee on the nose. My dad flew the first flight, first lap right into the loops. It was a awesome sight.I remember him doing wingovers back to back, all I could think about was that I built that.

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I have 4 more currently on planes. The one with the mill finish case was purchased as a Golden Bee. I have two of these which are both Golden Bee engines.
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Post  rsv1cox Sat Nov 20, 2021 10:50 am

Beautiful engines Ken.

My Golden Bee / Wanna Bee made up from poorly anodized parts that Bernie sold a couple of years ago. I think I matched them up with the worst cylinder that I could find.

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Post  Ken Cook Sat Nov 20, 2021 12:11 pm

Bob, that's a brand new thin walled #2 cylinder in the package on the left of my engines. My dad had that a long time. I just found a case and tank. I will be able to cobble together a practically new engine. My case I found looks brand new.
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Post  rsv1cox Sat Nov 20, 2021 12:39 pm

Ken Cook wrote:                Bob, that's a brand new thin walled #2 cylinder in the package on the left of my engines. My dad had that a long time. I just found a case and tank. I will be able to cobble together a practically new engine. My case I found looks brand new.

I could see that it was a cylinder Ken, but I couldn't understand it's inclusion with the Golden Bees. New #2 cylinder with a new case etc. and you have a newly reconstructed Golden Bee just like the factory did many years ago.
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Post  Marleysky Sat Nov 20, 2021 12:44 pm

HA!  That's one Beautiful butt ugly GB!
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Post  MauricioB Sat Nov 20, 2021 9:42 pm

how much information there is here thanks to you! !!! ...
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Post  Ken Cook Sun Nov 21, 2021 6:43 am

I found another Golden Bee last night. This is one that doesn't have the bold gold look to it. It has rather a very pale faded with a touch of pinkish tinge to it. I know some of these engines would fade. My example though looks great with no marks on the tank. I found many Black Widows and while internally are great, the exteriors have been abused.
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