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Yet another Lil' Satan build...
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Yet another Lil' Satan build...
Laid up with strep today going to see if I can knock this out. Rustys retried thread has inspired me to take some liberties the design.
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Re: Yet another Lil' Satan build...
Should be interesting.......
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Re: Yet another Lil' Satan build...
Going to start by trading a few ribs for a consistent airfoil to avoid stalling during maneuvers...
https://i.imgur.com/MpR4I.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/MpR4I.jpg
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Re: Yet another Lil' Satan build...
Starting to resemble an airplane.
https://i.imgur.com/MpR4I.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/MpR4I.jpg
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Re: Yet another Lil' Satan build...
Here's how I smoothed my airfoil shape:
I added a spar, top and bottom, to hold the shape between the ribs. It's almost on the CG but you could move back some if you wanted to. It does a good job of preventing the dip between the ribs. I just used a square file and made a notch in each rib and pressed in a 3/16"(I think) square balsa dowel. I added a 1/16" balsa brace between the top and bottom spar between each rib.
I added a spar, top and bottom, to hold the shape between the ribs. It's almost on the CG but you could move back some if you wanted to. It does a good job of preventing the dip between the ribs. I just used a square file and made a notch in each rib and pressed in a 3/16"(I think) square balsa dowel. I added a 1/16" balsa brace between the top and bottom spar between each rib.
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Re: Yet another Lil' Satan build...
Don't screw around with that strep. Knock it out hard and make sure you don't get a relapse by pushing too hard too soon. When I was 17 I did exactly what I'm cautioning against. Simple case of strep throat mishandled. Now I've been on kidney dialysis for 27 years because I was too bone headed to take care of myself. I'm a walking talking public service announcement when it comes to strep.JPvelo wrote:Laid up with strep today going to see if I can knock this out. Rustys retried thread has inspired me to take some liberties the design.
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Re: Yet another Lil' Satan build...
First thing I did this morning was go to urgent to get diagnosed and get antibiotics.RknRusty wrote:Don't screw around with that strep. Knock it out hard and make sure you don't get a relapse by pushing too hard too soon. When I was 17 I did exactly what I'm cautioning against. Simple case of strep throat mishandled. Now I've been on kidney dialysis for 27 years because I was too bone headed to take care of myself. I'm a walking talking public service announcement when it comes to strep.JPvelo wrote:Laid up with strep today going to see if I can knock this out. Rustys retried thread has inspired me to take some liberties the design.
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Re: Yet another Lil' Satan build...
Here's the bones mocked up ready for finishing. 22" wingspan, 9" from firewall to rear of the elevator, just shy of 2 ounces on my el cheapo diet scale.
https://i.imgur.com/omIWR.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/omIWR.jpg
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Re: Yet another Lil' Satan build...
That was a quick turnaround! Looks like it's going to be a snappy flier.
Is that all scratch? or did you dissassemble your Satan and scavenge?
Is that all scratch? or did you dissassemble your Satan and scavenge?
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I had another Satan kit but parts fit at the leading edge was crap. Went with the sheeting to fill gaps and add strength and also fill out the airfoil between ribs. Figured the sheeting was strong enough I could lose half of the ribs and make up for the weight of the sheeting. Tips were scratchbuilt and the tail booms were obviously shortened. Hope it will fly snappy enough to turn around and bite it's own tail when I get a fine thread needle for one of my tee dees! Will fly on reed power until then.
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Re: Yet another Lil' Satan build...
You guys are too cool! If these subject threads keep going, I fear that I shall be drawn into getting one of these little monsters! Look away, Kim, look away !!!!!!!!!!
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Re: Yet another Lil' Satan build...
Do it!!! Maybe you'll end up with something that flys as well as this video of my little wizard with a babe bee:Kim wrote:You guys are too cool! If these subject threads keep going, I fear that I shall be drawn into getting one of these little monsters! Look away, Kim, look away !!!!!!!!!!
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Wow, you got that Babe to turn 30 grand. Sounds just like a Cyclon!JPvelo wrote:Do it!!! Maybe you'll end up with something that flies as well as this video of my little wizard with a babe bee:Kim wrote:You guys are too cool! If these subject threads keep going, I fear that I shall be drawn into getting one of these little monsters! Look away, Kim, look away !!!!!!!!!!
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Re: Yet another Lil' Satan build...
Ya' gotta cut the prop down to 4 3/4 and run at least 20% nitro and about 80% bs.RknRusty wrote:Wow, you got that Babe to turn 30 grand. Sounds just like a Cyclon!JPvelo wrote:Do it!!! Maybe you'll end up with something that flies as well as this video of my little wizard with a babe bee:Kim wrote:You guys are too cool! If these subject threads keep going, I fear that I shall be drawn into getting one of these little monsters! Look away, Kim, look away !!!!!!!!!!
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Re: Yet another Lil' Satan build...
80% BS? Where do I find that?
Was that a Li'l Wizard? as in Carl Goldberg?
If so how did you ever get it to stunt like that? Mine is a brick with wings. Even with an RR1 up front it was just a faster brick with wings.
Was that a Li'l Wizard? as in Carl Goldberg?
If so how did you ever get it to stunt like that? Mine is a brick with wings. Even with an RR1 up front it was just a faster brick with wings.
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Re: Yet another Lil' Satan build...
That was a combat wing with a cyclone .15 doing 90mph. Witnessed it firsthand yesterday.cribbs74 wrote:80% BS? Where do I find that?
Was that a Li'l Wizard? as in Carl Goldberg?
If so how did you ever get it to stunt like that? Mine is a brick with wings. Even with an RR1 up front it was just a faster brick with wings.
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Re: Yet another Lil' Satan build...
Well, you got me......
Good one!
Good one!
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Actually it was a combat wing with a Cyclon .15.JPvelo wrote:
That was a combat wing with a cyclone .15 doing 90mph. Witnessed it firsthand yesterday.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lzwViSUDvVg
Scary things, those Cyclons.
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Re: Yet another Lil' Satan build...
my little wizard is notably nose heavy with a product engine and remote tank. Shorten it up a little and it probably will become significantly more nimble. Put a serious engine on and get the balance right it probably will do more than just wingovers.
Nose heavy I can do lazy loops and inverted... properly balanced? Hmm...
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Nose heavy I can do lazy loops and inverted... properly balanced? Hmm...
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Re: Yet another Lil' Satan build...
Looking good man!!!
Now fly it and report back. It should be pretty responsive with that short tail. After you feel better that is.........
Now fly it and report back. It should be pretty responsive with that short tail. After you feel better that is.........
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Feeling good Ron, thanks. Just painted today parts are still tacky. Will take them to work tomorrow so they con sun bake in the car all day and cure. Will epoxy up tomorrow nite and try to fly on Friday. Will definitely video.
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That's pretty. Just fly it with a sip of fuel until you see how she handles.
That might wrinkle up your covering.JPvelo wrote:Feeling good Ron, thanks. Just painted today parts are still tacky. Will take them to work tomorrow so they can sun bake in the car all day and cure...
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Re: Yet another Lil' Satan build...
Parts aren't glued on yet, just mocked up for the pretty photo. Speaking of covering this is the first time I've used ultracote. Love it. Sold. For the first time my wingtips don't look like a shrink wrapped crap.
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Hope to have full flight report with video tomorrow.
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