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What on Earth caused this?!?
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What on Earth caused this?!?
I was cleaning up an .049 from a tether car that I got a few months ago, and when I pulled the cylinder off the motor and removed the head, I found this:
You can see between the blue lines the large trough that goes the entire length of the cylinder. This is between the exhaust slits on either side. The red arrows point to two more, but smaller areas of the cylinder where it's wallowed out. One of the two you can just see through to the other end of the cylinder if you look just right. And, as you can see from the picture, there's a small gap around the top of the cylinder from the 6 o'clock position to the 2 o'clock position, but it's just at the lip of the cylinder.
I couldn't figure it out. The piston itself doesn't have any scarring or damage marks on it, and it's perfectly round. After thinking on it, I guessed it might be out of round somehow, maybe from an overtightened heat sink. But using my calipers on the outside of the barrel and fins showed the external dimensions to also be perfectly round.
Has anyone seen anything like this before?
The Stumped Mark
You can see between the blue lines the large trough that goes the entire length of the cylinder. This is between the exhaust slits on either side. The red arrows point to two more, but smaller areas of the cylinder where it's wallowed out. One of the two you can just see through to the other end of the cylinder if you look just right. And, as you can see from the picture, there's a small gap around the top of the cylinder from the 6 o'clock position to the 2 o'clock position, but it's just at the lip of the cylinder.
I couldn't figure it out. The piston itself doesn't have any scarring or damage marks on it, and it's perfectly round. After thinking on it, I guessed it might be out of round somehow, maybe from an overtightened heat sink. But using my calipers on the outside of the barrel and fins showed the external dimensions to also be perfectly round.
Has anyone seen anything like this before?
The Stumped Mark
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Re: What on Earth caused this?!?
I don't see how there would be any compression in that condition. Do you have any history on the car/engine? Was the engine complete when you received it? What did it have for a glowhead/gasket(s)? I'm wondering if that cylinder may have been purposely re-worked. Would the engine turn when you received it? If so; did it feel like it had any compression? Maybe this was some obscure racing/tuning mod that we're not familiar with..
Re: What on Earth caused this?!?
This looks like advanced wear caused by "piston slop".
I have seen this on conventional piston/gudgeon pin arrangements. As wear increases - the piston rocks in the cylinder bore. The piston is harder than the cylinder and as it rocks it presents the top edge if the piston to the bore. This then acts as a scraper. So does the piston skirt.
Usually the ball and socket will give up before this happens because of the stresses in the rocking motion but the cox piston is much harder than the cylinder and free to rotate.
I have seen this on conventional piston/gudgeon pin arrangements. As wear increases - the piston rocks in the cylinder bore. The piston is harder than the cylinder and as it rocks it presents the top edge if the piston to the bore. This then acts as a scraper. So does the piston skirt.
Usually the ball and socket will give up before this happens because of the stresses in the rocking motion but the cox piston is much harder than the cylinder and free to rotate.
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