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Post  GWILLIEFOX Fri Dec 02, 2016 9:05 am

My 09 II and some papers.  The throttle arm is not original; the previous owner removed the original plain bent wire and installed a conventional throttle arm.
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Post  fredvon4 Fri Dec 02, 2016 10:52 am

That early style Enya #3 plug is a thing of beauty to me

In the late 50s my dad (I was under 5) got the Model airplane CL bug and first engine was McCoy 29 or 35 (I forget) but definitely ignition

very soon after he got a GLOW one and Alcohol fuel
Most of what he bought was from an Army Post Exchange (PX)

He had me as "helper" and I was stoked for a life of love of ALL things aviation ad Motors!

The first ever Enya I saw was around age 9 or so on Island of Formosa (Taiwan) where my dad and I were just starting to figure it all out and actually build models that would fly and the skills necessary to try and keep the months of evenings building and finishing from being obliterated in two laps...OK... I know I can do a longer sentence

Any Way the AF, Navy, and Army guys all got to island hop. In our area a guy, who was also into model airplanes, brought back from Okinawa, a new Enya engine  (no memory of the size)...but compared to the early McCoy was a true work of art...

I remember at least 6 guys, with my dad, at the flying site just running and grinning but negatively commenting on this Jap-(anese) wonder of an engine..
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Comon lighten up, it was the early 60s, and "Buy American" was NOT a yet an National slogan ----but a subtly ingrained mantra since the War.......

However---- I was aware enough, to see that they both loathed, and admired, this little jewel of an engine...

Retrospect... by now the very short life of a $7.89 McCoy was an aggravation ---and the more expensive Fox $12.50 in the Base Exchange was not that much better... ( I doubt ANY of my dad cohorts or I had any clue about OIL/Nitro/Meth mixes need for good life) and more to the point...it seems to me all engine runs were adjusted for Max RPM on the ground...some of you will know this is a bad Idea

Not too sure when dad and I became aware of other engine brands ...in our limited world..Cox, McCoy, Fox, and (can only get in Japan) Enya

Of course, by the mid 60s this all changed and we started having the extra bucks for magazine subscriptions ( I doubt my dad- nor I-Ever read any Model magazine before 1964)

Later in life, my dad told me he used the McCoy Ignition engine for the first plane he built---- because he and his brother played with cast aluminum tether cars (late 40s early 50s) with that brand engine...But he said he alway wanted a Dooling..... (side thought..he died before I could gift him a very cool Dooling 60 tether motor I got on e-bay)...the back then price of $599 for the period correct chassis---- was not to be... sorry for the sideways slant
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Post  crankbndr Fri Dec 02, 2016 11:31 am

Ive been collecting Dooling for a while now, most of the pre-war stuff is out of reach for me.
Not long ago I came across a mis priced Dooling Mercury rear drive new listing that was way too low, I hesitated for a second and it was gone.
This .61 I have carries its own magneto

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Post  rsv1cox Fri Dec 02, 2016 1:48 pm

Spectacular engines guys. Love that Dooling.

GWillie Thanks for posting that picture along with the instructions, I saved the instructions. What is different though is the early .09II's had Made In Japan cast in the right bearer while the first edition 3001's had it on the left.

Yes, Enya just supplied a straight piece of wire on the early carburetors for the throttle control. But the PO of this one had a simple solution, just cut the wire and twist.

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Post  Twin Stack Thu May 12, 2022 10:52 pm

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Post  GallopingGhostler Fri May 13, 2022 5:27 am

I've got 4 Enya .09-III's, 2 TV (RC) and 2 with venturis. They are fantastic engines. Peter Chinn rated them back in 1965 as being 2nd powerful to the .09 Tee Dee. Using Peter's data, I was surprised that the CL version is a touch more powerful than the well acclaimed Fox .15X. Because the HP peaks out at a lower RPM, to take advantage, must be propped with larger diameter / steeper pitched props.

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I also was amazed that they are a touch more powerful than the competing 1965 OS Max .10R/C (I have 3). The OS is a sweet engine, very easy throttling, with exhaust baffle plate for idle back pressure, weighs only 3 oz., a good upgrade to that anemic .049 plane. I've seen it turn my trainer into a decent sport plane.

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I've gained a respect for Enya being top notched engines. Both these engines need to be propped with larger / steeper pitched props to take advantage of their lower power band, but propped properly, they really move out. The Enyga has a touch more power to make up for its 1 oz. heavier weight.


Last edited by GallopingGhostler on Sat May 14, 2022 12:58 pm; edited 1 time in total (Reason for editing : Correction to OS displacement, not .15 (have also, great engine), but .10.)
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Post  sosam117 Fri May 13, 2022 7:38 am


Of all of my Enya .09"s that I have (67 engines in all) I only am missing the shiny .09 and the buggy "Quicky" (but didn't really want a car engine) .
Unfortunately I didn't keep the boxes from the Enya .09 (Model 3001 -- which I have three) and the boxes for 3 of the four Enya. 09-II that I have. Now I wished I did?

So those guys that don't have their original boxes are in an Enya "newer" square box like the newer Enya engines.

Enya .09 Model 3001 U-Control and with T.V. (Yes the T.V."IS" original when I purchased it!)
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Enya .09-II with original T.V.
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The mass produced Enya .09-III
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The very "RARE" Enya .09-III BB T.V.
(which was not mentioned by the way?) Produced for only a year and a half?
Close look at the 2nd photo shows that this engines was on Enya's engine list.
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The photo of the Enya .09-IV with small exhaust (to use the old clamp on muffler)
This engine was missed some how by Twin Stack on R/C Group Forum?
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The Enya .09-IV Plain Bearing "large stack" exhaust for the new .09/.15/.19 muffler
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Now the Enya .09-IV BB T.V. ( with the BB stamped on the front housing)
Reason being some plain bearing .09-IV also had the "RED" prop driver (so don't go by just the red prop driver!)
I have "four" plain bearing .09-IV engines with the red prop driver and are "not" ball bearing. and not sold as BB engines.
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Last is the Quicky (Enya .09-IV)
The best of them all.
Originally as a "buggy" engine (car). It was also changed into an airplane engine.
I was originally not interested in the "buggy" engine but did purchase the "Quicky" plane engine.

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On the R/C Group Forum, Twin Stacks has 90% of the Enya .09 engines correct but missed out on the Enya-III BB which was a very short run and some of the details on the "RED" prop driver info along with the BB stamped on the front housing of the engines that are BB engines.

I do like the smaller Enya engines from the .049 to the .19 size engines and have been purchasing them for more than 55 years.
I also had one opportunity to visit the Enya plant before they moved to their new location back in 2004.
While there I purchased an Enya 90-4C engine that a woman was placing the engine and accessories into the box to be shipped out and had Ken Enya sign the top of the box for me (special!)
That one is my "special" engine.
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Post  Twin Stack Fri May 13, 2022 7:44 pm

Hi sosam,
the reason why I omitted that particular 09 variant is, I don't have one in my collection and as well, I couldn't find an image of one on the net (the RCG posting intended to be a simple, visual one). I don't claim to be an expert on every single ENYA engine and variant !

However, on page 61 of my ENYA Compendium, I wrote this which hopefully will satisfy you -
"The smallest of the engines designed by Saburo Enya (the 09) must hold some sort of record for the number of times that the crankcase casting was altered to change on which side the exhaust stack was positioned. Starting with the Model 3001, the exhaust was on the R.H. side, but when the 09-II was released, that was changed to the L.H. side. The stack remained on the left all through production of the 09-III, and was last seen on the 09-III BB first variant. A second variant of the 09-III BB appeared with the stack now on the R.H. side, and it remained in that position on all the following 09-IV variants. As well, there were “small” and “large” stacks (the latter for a bolton muffler), thus it’s possible to find an 09-III BB with a “small” stack on either the left or right hand side, or an 09-IV BB with a “small” R.H. exhaust stack, before the switch to the larger stack"

I was interested in your photo of the ENYA literature, as I don't have that particular sheet which mentions the 09-III BB. Could you tell me though - what does the asterisk signify next to the III BB listing ?
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Post  sosam117 Sat May 14, 2022 11:19 am

Twin Stack wrote:Hi sosam,
the reason why I omitted that particular 09 variant is, I don't have one in my collection and as well, I couldn't find an image of one on the net (the RCG posting intended to be a simple, visual one). I don't claim to be an expert on every single ENYA engine and variant !

However, on page 61 of my ENYA Compendium, I wrote this which hopefully will satisfy you -
"The smallest of the engines designed by Saburo Enya (the 09) must hold some sort of record for the number of times that the crankcase casting was altered to change on which side the exhaust stack was positioned. Starting with the Model 3001, the exhaust was on the R.H. side, but when the 09-II was released, that was changed to the L.H. side. The stack remained on the left all through production of the 09-III, and was last seen on the 09-III BB first variant. A second variant of the 09-III BB appeared with the stack now on the R.H. side, and it remained in that position on all the following 09-IV variants. As well, there were “small” and “large” stacks (the latter for a bolton muffler), thus it’s possible to find an 09-III BB with a “small” stack on either the left or right hand side, or an 09-IV BB with a “small” R.H. exhaust stack, before the switch to the larger stack"

I was interested in your photo of the ENYA literature, as I don't have that particular sheet which mentions the 09-III BB. Could you tell me though - what does the asterisk signify next to the III BB listing ?

I don't know what the asterisk says because my Enya literature is in Japanese.
I'll need to either scan it or take a photo and go to one of the translation websites to see what it says.

I do have all of the Enya .09 variations (except the shiny case .09) but I have not yet photographed them all.
I have acquired 90% my engines from Japan (Hobby & Toy stores) when I was in Japan.

My company had me go over to Japan every three months so when a new engine from Enya came out I usually tried to purchase it.

How I got the engines back to the USA was interesting.
Working for Cat Fuel Systems (injectors), I packaged the Enya engines with the returning injectors in the metal shipping cases (a little bigger than a very larger luggage) inside and when I got stopped, I told TSA that these are defective injectors I'm bringing back to my company for inspection.

Did it for 5 years with the contract that Cat Fuel Systems had with ISUZU making diesel injectors for the Trooper.
Got about 375 Enya engines. Bad thing is all of the literature, engine papers and info. are in Japanese.

Had a nice boss that flew model airplanes to and brought back some items for him too.
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Post  sosam117 Sat May 14, 2022 12:25 pm

Twin Stack,
I have "ten" Enya engines (.049-II / .06-II / .08 and a .10) that were specially modified by a company called Mokoken.
They fetch a higher price than the original Enya engines.
I have done some comparison to see the difference and there are quite a few but the look is like an original Enya engine.

Here is the web site of a Enya .10 diesel that they have done.

http://mokoken.driven.jp/engin/ENYA10/ENYA10.html

The photo below is one I have and it was the one of the 1st ones they did.
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One easy way to spot a Mokoken engine is the crankshaft that they make the threads for the prop nuts the Enya .049-II from Mokoken uses M4x.5 thd pitch and the Emya .06-II from Mokoken uses M5x.5 thd and not the old JIS thread pitch.
So, those engines have turned spinners instead of prop nuts.

As an example: the Enya .10 (diesel) engine
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