What is this?

coxaddict Sun Aug 06, 2017 2:44 pm

Found this at a thrift shop. Looks to be fiberglass. I wondering if any one knows what this is. If I needed more I would know where to look for this item.

Thanks in advance
Agustin Jr.

roddie Sun Aug 06, 2017 4:56 pm

I have to ask why you bought it?.. Laughing

There are warnings on virtually everything these days to guard against law-suits. Your probably close to correct with your guess on fiberglass. It's definitely a fibrous band of some sort. I tried some searches based on "warning-fibrous band recoil hazards".. which didn't lead to any specific products.

BEFORE you cut the strap to the coil.. understand that the warning is there to protect the manufacturer PRIMARILY. It's up to the user to take any further steps for safety. We don't know what this stuff is. That said; I doubt that there's any danger.. or else; "DANGER" would be on the label.. and you probably wouldn't find something like that for sale just anywhere. DON'T cut the strap indoors. I would take it outdoors.. where a possible "violent-recoil" could occur. PROTECT YOURSELF with common-sense measures. I realize that you live in a warm climate.. but don't wear sandals and shorts when you cut that coil-strap and wear SAFETY-GLASSES. I would lay the coil FLAT on some clean-smooth pavement.. and place the weight of one foot (wearing boots) on the coil BEFORE cutting the strap, to keep the recoil "linear" and low.. away from your upper-body and head.

I'm being over-protective.. I just don't want you to get injured.

coxaddict Sun Aug 06, 2017 6:16 pm

Thanks Roddie,

When I saw it and the warning label I was thinking this would be something that I could use to make a cheap model car chassis. Seems to have inherit stiffness with flex. Maybe some cox powered tether cars or even R/C cars. Being the frugal person that I am I'm always looking for ways to stretch my hobby dollar lol!

But???? I seem to spend more money on tools ( saws, drills. lathes, mill, welders, torches, planers etc.) to make a 3 dollar part! What?

One of my big concerns was un-coiling the darn thing. As I sit here typing I see the solution sitting on my front porch, a 2 inch wide x 12 feet long ratcheting tie down. I'll wrap it around tightly, cut the strap and slowly release one tooth at a time until the tension is at a safe level.

roddie Sun Aug 06, 2017 6:31 pm

coxaddict wrote:Thanks Roddie,

When I saw it and the warning label I was thinking this would be something that I could use to make a cheap model car chassis. Seems to have inherit stiffness with flex. Maybe some cox powered tether cars or even R/C cars. Being the frugal person that I am I'm always looking for ways to stretch my hobby dollar But???? I seem to spend more money on tools ( saws, drills. lathes, mill, welders, torches, planers etc.) to make a 3 dollar part!
One of my big concerns was un-coiling the darn thing. As I sit here typing I see the solution sitting on my front porch, a 2 inch wide x 12 feet long ratcheting tie down. I'll wrap it around tightly, cut the strap and slowly release one tooth at a time until the tension is at a safe level.

Good thinking Augustin! Better safe than sorry. We're birds of a feather regarding tools/materials.. The way I see it; as long as you can afford them.. and know that you can put them to use "someday".. you might as well buy them. They may not be as easy to source later on down the road..

coxaddict Mon Aug 07, 2017 2:36 pm

Started working as an attendant pumping gas, checking tires, oil, coolant and then wiping windows at a Chevron station, stuck many a tire on the dreaded tire machine in the '70s. lol!

Started buying hand tools while working as a tire boy and tune-up/brake specialist at the local department store. Got hired as an apprentice at the Sugar mill repairing earth moving equipment ,buying more tools. Fortunately the Snap-On dealer let us make weekly payments . Retired as a Power Plant mechanic all the while buying more tools for my hobbies telling my wife I needed them to work on the house lol!

So while I did earn a living with my tools I have never sold any as I still use them in my retirement years.
Currently working on my son's 1981 Toyota truck 4x4 that is stripped down to the frame in my front yard. He wants me to bodywork and paint the rust bucket lol!

roddie Mon Aug 07, 2017 3:23 pm

Tools........... whenever I see them at a yard/tag-sale, I often wonder where they came from. Not many people would sell their own tools.. unless they were replaced by more modern ones.. or more sadly; destitute. They're the absolute last possessions I'd ever sell. Tools "in-general" can be used to build things as a source of extra-income when reaching retirement-age.

An older fella in my locale builds bird-houses.. and literally "cleans-up" with sales. He prices them at $185! Shocked

He puts copper-sheet roofs on them.. and they're pretty big... (3-4 family dwellings.. Laughing

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You're a good-dad for helping-out your son with his pick-up truck. Thumbs Up

Those old Toyota's do rust-out badly.. but mechanically.. they're marvels of engineering. I'm guessing it has the 22R engine.. which was extremely reliable.. and generally well-outlived the vehicle.

fredvon4 Mon Aug 07, 2017 3:31 pm

I tend to think the topic product is simply just rolled up fiber glass flat stock and as such it is NOT under any great tension....and to my eye does NOT look dangerous in any way

I have had many many a roll of copper and aluminum flashing packed much the same ---and would be much more cautious un-banding just because the edges are very sharp

The biggest caution I would offer is to keep the material OUT of direct sun... UN finished FG becomes a very nasty skin irritant as it deteriorates

This product may have been as simple as common Garden Border materiel

rsv1cox Mon Aug 07, 2017 5:03 pm

That piece looked familiar CA so I ran down stairs to investigate. The former owner of this property left it and I had forgotten about it until I saw your picture. But no joy, similar but not the same.

I think a little flick of a finger on the bitter end of that roll would be a good indicator of the tension that it's under.

Speaking of tools, I found this very adjustable drill press vice at a flea market, got it home only to discover that the slide is fractured. Hopefully my son can weld it. It's cast iron so I'm not sure.

coxaddict Mon Aug 07, 2017 5:51 pm

Thanks for the tips on this subject. As a side bar I have with great success with brazed and welded cast iron cylinder heads,parts and vises too. I would drill the ends of the cracks to stop the crack then grind out a vee for the weld material. Use a carbide burr to prevent carbon smear. Pre- heat ,weld, peen then post-heat and cool under a ahem, an asbestos blanket (can't find those anymore) lol!

We used to cold weld combustion chambers by drilling and pinning the cracks overlapping each pin when drilling the succeeding hole. Really had a great feeling of accomplishment getting obsolete diesel tractors running again! Tired w/ Coffee Read

rsv1cox Mon Aug 07, 2017 6:25 pm

Thanks for the tips CA. Hopefully it will work because I love this thing. My other DPV is quite simple in comparison and limited in it's use.

It will come all apart and restored to hopefully as new condition.

Bob

pkrankow Tue Aug 08, 2017 8:27 am

The roll looks like counter edging formica. It is under some pressure and has sharpish edges so wear gloves or something when cutting it open but it isn't like a roll of metal shimstock or anything crazy.

The cross slide will be best brazed and filed back. It will hold up for years under light to moderate service. It can be arc welded with nickle, but it isn't worth it.

Phil

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