Fun on a Friday Night...

Nice score. You will know a lot and have a lot of fun before too long! Just one whiff and sound of one of these and you will know why!

Way to go Steve. Looks like your on your way.

Some here and elsewhere build their own engines, mostly for speed and call them "Frankencoxes" or something similar.

An over night soak in Simple Green will clean up those machine screws, but don't leave the case in the stuff, it will tend to turn it black.

A search here will turn up a lot of different cleaning methods.

Bob

The 020's are used, albeit very little.
Frankenstein the 049 is being built from parts acquired here and there. I thought it would be fun to build this way.
I am looking for well used, still serviceable, parts.
I have two in the works thus far, the one pictured and a Bee.

These are the two engines, both from parts, from different sources.
I need to find a bowl to match the crankcase on left Bee, and a red backplate for the product engine on right.

944_Jim wrote:That one on the right has an odd-ball looking glowplug on it. Any details?

The head has been turned down. I used a fine grade sandpaper to clean it up.

You can also use some gun blue liquid on the cylinders to restore the black color.

SteveM wrote:The 020's are used, albeit very little.
Frankenstein the 049 is being built from parts acquired here and there. I thought it would be fun to build this way.
I am looking for well used, still serviceable, parts.
I have two in the works thus far, the one pictured and a Bee.

Steve.  Don't get confused by what you've got.  What you have there is one Pee Wee .020 and two .049s.  The Pee Wee is pretty obvious. In the picture where you show the two parts engines, they are both .049s.  There are some differences as you have an early model and a late model.  The one pictured on the left is the early one (1960s), identified by the tapered crankshaft nose and the thin-walled cylinder.  The right hand one (Frankenstein) is effectively the same engine, only it's probably from the 80s having a beefed-up crankcase and thick walled cylinder.  There will most likely be some differences in cylinder porting.  Firstly, have a look and see if you can see a number stamped under an exhaust port, or even just on the flat part of the side of the port.  Then, check out the "Cylinder identification" section of the "INFO" box to the left of this post.  

Either way, both .049 engines can use exactly the same rear-end, whether plastic for an external fuel tank or an integral Bee type tank.  They will interchange.

Rod.

P.S. I picked up early on your avatar.   I'm a big Floyd fan.

balogh wrote:You can also use some gun blue liquid on the cylinders to restore the black color.

My idea is to build a well worn, yet serviceable engine. The way it looks now is exactly what I had in mind.

Oldenginerod wrote:

SteveM wrote:The 020's are used, albeit very little.
Frankenstein the 049 is being built from parts acquired here and there. I thought it would be fun to build this way.
I am looking for well used, still serviceable, parts.
I have two in the works thus far, the one pictured and a Bee.

Steve.  Don't get confused by what you've got.  What you have there is one Pee Wee .020 and two .049s.  The Pee Wee is pretty obvious. In the picture where you show the two parts engines, they are both .049s.  There are some differences as you have an early model and a late model.  The one pictured on the left is the early one (1960s), identified by the tapered crankshaft nose and the thin-walled cylinder.  The right hand one (Frankenstein) is effectively the same engine, only it's probably from the 80s having a beefed-up crankcase and thick walled cylinder.  There will most likely be some differences in cylinder porting.  Firstly, have a look and see if you can see a number stamped under an exhaust port, or even just on the flat part of the side of the port.  Then, check out the "Cylinder identification" section of the "INFO" box to the left of this post.  

Either way, both .049 engines can use exactly the same rear-end, whether plastic for an external fuel tank or an integral Bee type tank.  They will interchange.



Rod.

P.S. I picked up early on your avatar.   I'm a big Floyd fan.

Rod,
Thank you very much, yes huge Floyd fan...
I was working on several things when I took that picture. I need to learn the 'Lingo' when talking of specific engines.
I am to the understanding that a 'Bee' type would have the integral fuel tank, and a 'Product' engine would have a plastic backplate.
Please correct me if I am wrong...

Hi there Steve. Unfortunately, there was the Killer Bee and Queen Bee that did not have attached tanks. As well, back in the earlier years, some product engines also had tanks attached as like the 'Bee' engines you are thinking of. This can be a confusing game when starting out with these little things. And then just when you think you got it figured out, BAM, another thing you didn't know... That's how we all learn. Anyways, here is a link to a website with lots of great information on Cox and some other engines, as well as models. Just navigate the bar on the left side and you will see all the Cox engines by categories. It is a good read and I visit there quite a bit to read.

https://www.mh-aerotools.de/airfoils/cox_frameset.htm

NEW222 wrote:Hi there Steve. Unfortunately, there was the Killer Bee and Queen Bee that did not have attached tanks. As well, back in the earlier years, some product engines also had tanks attached as like the 'Bee' engines you are thinking of. This can be a confusing game when starting out with these little things. And then just when you think you got it figured out, BAM, another thing you didn't know...  That's how we all learn. Anyways, here is a link to a website with lots of great information on Cox and some other engines, as well as models. Just navigate the bar on the left side and you will see all the Cox engines by categories. It is a good read and I visit there quite a bit to read.

https://www.mh-aerotools.de/airfoils/cox_frameset.htm

Thanks!