Quest for more revs

crankbndr Mon Mar 05, 2012 6:59 pm

My latest idea for more revs, dont know if it will work but Im going
to cook up some cases and cranks, possibly cylinders.

Mark Boesen Mon Mar 05, 2012 7:57 pm

hello,

If you're gonna play with that stuff, have you thought about redoing backplates? I know they sell the stuff.

I've been anodizing on and off for several years, mostly off.

engine049 Mon Mar 05, 2012 8:06 pm

An engines biggest enemy is Friction Therefore 2000 grit sand paper then polishing compounds are your friend.

Next biggest enemy of Engine speed is reciprocating weight and balance if you can shave the sidewall of the piston blueprint than mind a way to micro balance.

Another few randon outside the box thinking is.

Graphite encrested Fuel.

Nanobotic Fuel that is smart enough or programambe to take up slop.

Combustion chambers along the crankshaft with extend outward while engine spins and explode passing further energy to crank kind of like a rotary wankly See drawing

Further Elaboration on my non existent semi Actually possibler technology

crankbndr Mon Mar 05, 2012 8:16 pm

Im still gathering all the stuff, temps critical so Im trying to find a lab hotplate cheap.
I have seen you work its very nice. Are the backplates brass? Have to study nickel on brass.
Once I get going Ill cook a backplate if you send one. Had to shrink the bath 85% from there
numbers for these small parts, there system is hard to understand but I think I got it.

jsesere Mon Mar 05, 2012 8:20 pm

Keep us posted. Mark, replated back plates would be the ticket.

engine049 Mon Mar 05, 2012 8:25 pm

http://www.ebay.com/itm/SCIENTIFIC-PRODUCTS-VWR-DYLATHERM-LAB-HOT-PLATE-CAT-NO-33918-432-500-WATTS-/150770726687?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item231aa2b71f 35 bucks good quality old 1 and thie abour 50 new on amazon

**RknRusty** Mon Mar 05, 2012 10:23 pm

engine049 wrote:An engines biggest enemy is Friction Therefore 2000 grit sand paper then polishing compounds are your friend.
Nanobiotic Fuel that is smart enough or programmable to take up slop.

Further Elaboration on my non existent semi Actually possibler technology

One of these days we'll have smart materials. The potential changes to the way we make things work is unimaginable. It will surely seem like magic.

mitchg95 Mon Mar 05, 2012 10:33 pm

engine049 wrote:

Nanobotic Fuel that is smart enough or programambe to take up slop.

nano bots in fuel that would be COOL Very Happy

Mark Boesen Mon Mar 05, 2012 10:57 pm

No, not me, I was talking to Cranky, i'm still trying to get anodizing down. Plating is a whole new game. Have you gone to Caswells forum?

I'd hit a Goodwill/Salvation Army for a hot plate. I found a rice steamer there for sealing the anodizing dye (also a crockpot for antifreeze) and small stainless steel mixing cups for soutions. Its also a good place to drop off stuff you don't need ...and get a recept for taxes!

Backplates are made out of some type of 'potmetal' and early versions had a clear iridite then a yellow dichromatic plating, followed by a brass plating in '58 on. As hard as it is to find nice metal backplates, it just might be a good endeavor.

engine049 Tue Mar 06, 2012 12:58 am

I read a lot of science fiction John Scalzi, old mans war is the best suggested reading anyone ever suggested to me.

If anyone is interested in my further elaborations

Basically a pinion gear attached to the drive plate that is further powering other pinion gears that power pistons that go in and out of the crankshaft journal and at an angle so that when excess fuel and gasses are spat from the exauhst it harnesses and possibly adds more fuel the pistons don`t even have go go into the crank they could detonate from pressure pinion gear system is enclosed. I am really good at drawing when I take my time so i will really draw this well soon. There are a lot of shortcomings. Timing can be fixed with the gear system ratios.
Ignition Could have glow elements inside the crankshaft powered by a small stator or a centrifugal electricity producer or small props on the tips of the prop that spin as the prop spins passing electricity though the prop blades to the crank where power could be distributed. Could even be spark and the power transfered like a horn in a steering wheel. Bleh. I'm no engineer and I'm just having fun with a silly dream

**RknRusty** Tue Mar 06, 2012 7:31 am

Aw come on, Tom, it looks like a kludge to me. I'll hold out for the refined draft. If you're thinking about better efficiency ideas on the scale of Cox engines, remember their elegance is in their simplicity.

John Goddard Tue Mar 06, 2012 7:58 am

engine049 wrote:I read a lot of science fiction John Scalzi, old mans war is the best suggested reading anyone ever suggested to me.

If anyone is interested in my further elaborations

But Is it Art?

Basically a pinion gear attached to the drive plate that is further powering other pinion gears that power pistons that go in and out of the crankshaft journal and at an angle so that when excess fuel and gasses are spat from the exauhst it harnesses and possibly adds more fuel the pistons don`t even have go go into the crank they could detonate from pressure pinion gear system is enclosed. I am really good at drawing when I take my time so i will really draw this well soon. There are a lot of shortcomings. Timing can be fixed with the gear system ratios.
Ignition Could have glow elements inside the crankshaft powered by a small stator or a centrifugal electricity producer or small props on the tips of the prop that spin as the prop spins passing electricity though the prop blades to the crank where power could be distributed. Could even be spark and the power transfered like a horn in a steering wheel. Bleh. I'm no engineer and I'm just having fun with a silly dream

**Cribbs74** Tue Mar 06, 2012 8:05 am

Tom,

It looks as though your designing a turbo charger. More or less anyway. I wonder if increased backpressure would be negated by the increase in overall performance.

Nothing wrong with creativity! Cox engines do have limitations. Even if you were to design a system to increase performance the cost would outweigh the benefit.

For folks to purchase a performance mod it would have to be a simple bolt on affair. You may want to channel that creativity into port design for the .049.

An .049 with fancy porting would probably sell.

Other areas that need improvement:

Muffler that is SPI compatible
Tanked throttle for reedies/ better throttle sleeve or carb that attaches to a stock backplate with no external mods.

Actually, now I'm thinking....... How about an .05 carb that attaches to a plastic manifold which screws into the venturi of a standard plastic backplate?

Make it so #1..........

Ron

engine049 Tue Mar 06, 2012 9:39 am

cribbs74 wrote:Tom,

It looks as though your designing a turbo charger. More or less anyway. I wonder if increased backpressure would be negated by the increase in overall performance.

Nothing wrong with creativity! Cox engines do have limitations. Even if you were to design a system to increase performance the cost would outweigh the benefit.

For folks to purchase a performance mod it would have to be a simple bolt on affair. You may want to channel that creativity into port design for the .049.

An .049 with fancy porting would probably sell.

Other areas that need improvement:

Muffler that is SPI compatible
Tanked throttle for reedies/ better throttle sleeve or carb that attaches to a stock backplate with no external mods.

Actually, now I'm thinking....... How about an .05 carb that attaches to a plastic manifold which screws into the venturi of a standard plastic backplate?

Make it so #1..........

Ron

For folks to purchase a performance mod it would have to be a simple bolt on affair. You may want to channel that creativity into port design for the .049.

If there were blanks this would not be a problem About the same volume of material removed split up in a few furruls in a rifled spin type of carving therefore whirlwind type action better fuel delivery Nice to theorize but the tooling is gone unless Bernie knows where the machines went. Also They'd probably be worn out. The cost would be great

There some way to bond nitrous oxide to the fuel cells without escaping That might be some more fun theoretical tech

How about an .05 carb that attaches to a plastic manifold which screws into the venturi of a standard plastic backplate?
Thats like re inventing the thermal hopper Product engine style I like

There might be some real value in that a small air pressure tank with fuel drip over tiny .010 hole to atomize the fuel for a more efficient burn Better yet removing reed valve and put an

atomizing valve reed valve... Thing.....

Very much like the babbington waste oil burner

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