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Post  akjgardner Mon Aug 14, 2023 11:49 am

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I bought this because I liked the box art and it’s a p 40 , when I opened it up it looked untouched. The little note leads me to be leave this came out during  WW II . It looks brand new but the dope has hardened over time . Anyone have an idea how I can clean out the jars ? Thanks for any help
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Post  akjgardner Mon Aug 14, 2023 11:50 am

Also , why are my pictures showing up upside down Very Happy ?
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Post  Levent Suberk Mon Aug 14, 2023 12:01 pm

Very good buying Very Happy Interesting to read WW2 label.

Filling jars with cellulosic thinners and waiting several days is OK to clean them.
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Post  akjgardner Mon Aug 14, 2023 12:07 pm

Levent Suberk wrote:Very good buying Very Happy  Interesting to read WW2 label.

Filling jars with cellulosic thinners and waiting several days is OK to clean them.
Thanks a bunch Levent
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Post  HalfaDave Mon Aug 14, 2023 12:52 pm

Hi akjgardener,
I learned this tech from CP here...Cool
Strap the bottles on the business end an orbital sander. (with tape)
Add any thinner, you think...
It is a 'coarse' ultrasonic cleaning method that works great.Cool
I bet you can save the labels with careful Duct taping... Smile
I have a glass bottle that fits on my 'orbital sander',  that has cleaned allot of [bleep] ! Laughing
Thanks CP, Cool
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Have fun,
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Post  akjgardner Mon Aug 14, 2023 12:56 pm

Thanks Dave . I’ll give it a go
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Post  GallopingGhostler Mon Aug 14, 2023 9:34 pm

akjgardner wrote:I bought this because I liked the box art and it’s a p 40 , when I opened it up it looked untouched. The little note leads me to be leave this came out during  WW II . It looks brand new but the dope has hardened over time . Anyone have an idea how I can clean out the jars ? Thanks for any help
Re: The dope issue, sometime back I cleaned 4 oz. SIG dope bottles that dried by filling with some Acetone and soaking a couple days. It softened it enough that I could clean the bottles totally. sifted out the softened paint globs and reused for another bottle to clean.

I used GIMP on your photo uploads for better readability, enjoy! Very Happy
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akjgardner wrote:Also , why are my pictures showing up upside down Very Happy ?
It is the way your cellphone was oriented when taking the photo. It assumes you will be holding it 180 degrees the other way. Using photo editing software can correct this.
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Post  akjgardner Tue Aug 15, 2023 10:24 am

Thanks George , I’ve got plenty of acetone . I might have trouble getting the old caps off. I might try to heat them
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Post  rsv1cox Tue Aug 15, 2023 10:46 am

That's quite a find Joe, and the "Important Notice" speaks to how important balsa was to the war effort, used in a lot of products that helped win the war.

What are your plans for it?
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Post  akjgardner Tue Aug 15, 2023 11:59 am

rsv1cox wrote:That's quite a find Joe, and the "Important Notice" speaks to how important balsa was to the war effort, used in a lot of products that helped win the war.  

What are your plans for it?  
we’ll , I was going to build it , but after seeing it in pretty good condition, I decided to display it in my hobby room . And yes , the De Havilland Mosquito ( Wooden Wonder ) comes to mind . That’s a lot of balsa wood.
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Post  944_Jim Tue Aug 15, 2023 12:51 pm

I'll add more later (as in "I'm drooling to seenthe plans").

Acetone or lacquer thinner. Scape/transfer as much as you can into a clean 4 ounce bottle...then do this with the bottle of goo. Wait a while while the machine does all the hard work.


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Post  akjgardner Tue Aug 15, 2023 1:43 pm

944_Jim wrote:I'll add more later (as in "I'm drooling to seenthe plans").

Acetone or lacquer thinner. Scape/transfer as much as you can into a clean 4 ounce bottle...then do this with the bottle of goo. Wait a while while the machine does all the hard work.

That’s awesome . Thank you
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Post  GallopingGhostler Tue Aug 15, 2023 2:05 pm

Just a side comment, I noticed that rubber powered dime scale plans around that time, may be a decade earlier used 1/16th inch square wing leading and trailing edges. Balsa, unless extremely hard, will easily snap and warp when covered and under flight loads.

Thus, I gather that they must have used basswood, other hardwood, or bamboo, as these would be considerably stronger. This goes for the early Comet and Guillow "dime scale" kits.
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