Re: 1/2A Control Line Handles

WingingIt74 Fri Jan 10, 2014 2:39 pm

Cribbs74 wrote: Pick up a SIG 1/2A handle or better yet a Larry Renger handle off of RSM.

I have one of these handles... my hand is almost too big for it.

1/2A Control Line Handles S167%20copy

http://www.sullivanproducts.com/ControlLineMainFrame.htm

WingingIt74 Fri Jan 10, 2014 2:50 pm

This looks like what I need...
http://brodak.com/handles/reyco-control-line-hardpoint-handle.html
1/2A Control Line Handles Reyco_handle

or build one Smile

**Cribbs74** Fri Jan 10, 2014 2:58 pm

First one is too big. You need a line spacing of 2"

WingingIt74 Fri Jan 10, 2014 3:08 pm

Cribbs74 wrote:First one is too big. You need a line spacing of 2"

So is my hand... barely fits in that one...

WingingIt74 Fri Jan 10, 2014 3:09 pm

I'll post a pic of the handles I've collected tonight...

**Cribbs74** Fri Jan 10, 2014 3:31 pm

The handles may seem small, but really it's only 4 fingers that go through the hole. You could always make one to custom fit.

JPvelo Fri Jan 10, 2014 6:14 pm

RknRusty wrote:Just don't let the screw protrude or you'll hook a line on it at the worst of times.

Amen brother. I had to learn that the hard way.

Jim

**RknRusty** Fri Jan 10, 2014 8:51 pm

Back to holding the handle for a moment, here's how I hold mine for 1/2A flying. No way I can get my fingers in it either. I can't even get 4 fingers in a Hotrock. This is one of the old green Thimble Drome handles.

WingingIt74 Fri Jan 10, 2014 9:11 pm

Here is what I have Smile

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WingingIt74 Fri Jan 10, 2014 9:18 pm

roddie wrote:

Here's some handles from my collection. Like Ron recommended; a narrow line spacing will decrease sensitivity. 2" spacing is possible with the Sig and Goldberg handles.. Mark Boesen recently posted about using the Goldberg handle's "slotted indexes" as permanent attachments, if your lines are exactly equal length... (no adjustment possible though...)

The "black" handle has a 1-9/16" line-spacing.. and I believe it came with my Cox "Cosmic Wind" model. It's a "2-finger" style.. and is on the idea that Rusty mentioned.

Is the model's "push-rod" set to minimum (least sensitive) control throws on both; the bell-crank and the stabilator's horn? That's where you want it for your 1st flights.

Roddie

**Cribbs74** Fri Jan 10, 2014 9:26 pm

WingingIt74 wrote:Here is what I have

I hate to say it, but the best handles you have are the Cox ones. I say that because they feel flimsy to me so I don't use them.

I use the SIG 1/2A handle like Rusty does. However, I am itching to pull the trigger on a Larry Renger handle.

Ron

**RknRusty** Fri Jan 10, 2014 9:27 pm

WingingIt74 wrote:Here is what I have

One like those three greenish ones at the bottom are what I'm using for fingertip control in that picture above. I had one break once, but still using another one. I do like the Red Sig ones best of all too.

Rusty

WingingIt74 Fri Jan 10, 2014 9:28 pm

Roddie, can you take a close up shot of that 2-finger handle... That looks like a darn good idea.

Mark Boesen Fri Jan 10, 2014 9:55 pm

Idk, that li'l handle is designed for a kid to not over control a plane, it would be good for a underpowered trainer, but for anything else it might be a hindrance? Why not just make a handle, there pretty easy.

I'd side with Rusty, the Cox handle or Goldberg or Sig handles work fine, the modified Goldberg can be adjusted somewhat by adding an extra connecters.

pkrankow Fri Jan 10, 2014 9:55 pm

Remember you can MAKE a handle pretty easy too. Some birch plywood, maybe some metal for drilling into for spacing...easy.

The SIG handle is what everybody has for sale currently. Bernie and Matt should both stock it, along with many others.

Phil

Mark Boesen Fri Jan 10, 2014 10:06 pm

...slight deviation from the thread, that li'l black handle is actually Testors...well designed by Testors, Cox actually sold them with their Cosmic Wind knock off.
This would be a question? Did Cox actually make them or buy them from Testors?

Mark Boesen Fri Jan 10, 2014 10:28 pm

and speaking of DIY handles, Menards/home depot/hardware store sells 1/8x 1/2"x36 aluminum stock, easy way to make a handle.

roddie Sat Jan 11, 2014 12:59 am

Mark Boesen wrote:...slight deviation from the thread, that li'l black handle is actually Testors...well designed by Testors, Cox actually sold them with their Cosmic Wind knock off.
This would be a question? Did Cox actually make them or buy them from Testors?

Here's close-ups of the "2-finger" handle that you asked for...

1/2A Control Line Handles Cosmic13

and some of the plane that it came with...
1/2A Control Line Handles Cosmic16

My spinner's buggered.. but I think I still have all the parts... The std. horseshoe back-plate fits mine.. and these are the original 5 x 2 and 5 x 4 props that came with it. I've got the wrench somewhere in my tote-box.. along with 3-4 other style Cox wrenches. Geez.. maybe I'll enter this as a second speed contest model?.. Cool

(the wing just makes it.. at about 48 squares.. span is 16".. and fuse length is just over 13") hmmm....

1/2A Control Line Handles Cosmic17

Check out the lead weight in the nose... Did Testors use this? or was the Cox engine set-up that much lighter?
1/2A Control Line Handles Cosmic18

Roddie

Mark Boesen Sat Jan 11, 2014 9:28 am

i'd guess, due to the size of chunk of lead it was designed that way. You see that often with scale model planes, they just don't have long noses to balance out without nose weight.

OVERLORD Sat Jan 11, 2014 11:13 am

My wood saw conversion

I'm going to make another one. There is too much bias on this one and to me, it doesn't feel right

Lieven

navion34 Sat Jan 11, 2014 11:17 am

Here a little "how to do", but it's in french...
http://www.f2cmbl.org/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=106:une-poignee-confortable&catid=12&Itemid=111&lang=fr

RK Flyer Sat Jan 11, 2014 11:27 am

Those are really good looking handles, I wonder if they are for sale?

RK Flyer

**RknRusty** Sat Jan 11, 2014 12:01 pm

Good lord, that's a heavy duty one. Put eyes on it, it looks like an animal.
Rusty

WingingIt74 Sat Jan 11, 2014 3:49 pm

navion34 wrote:Here a little "how to do", but it's in french...
http://www.f2cmbl.org/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=106:une-poignee-confortable&catid=12&Itemid=111&lang=fr

Translated to English:
http://www.google.com/translate?hl=en&sl=auto&tl=en&u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.f2cmbl.org%2Findex.php%3Foption%3Dcom_content%26view%3Darticle%26id%3D106%3Aune-poignee-confortable%26catid%3D12%26Itemid%3D111%26lang%3Den&sandbox=1

roddie Sat Jan 11, 2014 4:10 pm

If you make a "D" type (or similar) frame from aluminum or mild steel... that incorporates the "trick" adjustments that you want, you can then use fiberglass or epoxy resin to mold the exact grip of your hand around it. Wear a "tight fitting" Latex or vinyl surgical glove to make the impression, smooth it with a rasp after it hardens, finish sand smooth and seal it. My friend Dave Cook made one of these. He is of the C/L Expert Precision Aerobatics caliber.. and has competed in several AMA NATS competitions. Making a custom "grip" this way, is the ultimate in comfort.. which transfers as less distraction and better concentration during control. You could even use this procedure to make a more comfortable "grip" for a handle you already have.

Roddie

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