Gnat rc plane

mitchg95 wrote:or a red tank peewee
i would build it myself but i tend to start a project, get board after a few hours and move on to a new one. Its a mean cycle :'(

mitchg95: what part of the country is "lakewood" in. how would you want to handle shipping or would you want someone to build at your place? or maybe a partial build, then you assemble??


edit: 6:15p.m. after looking at the plan maybe you should think of a superlight or micro radio. like receiver and 2 servos at less than 2ounces. i have a micro receiver and 2 - 3.7gram servos at about 1ounce. it is for 2.4GHz.

happydad

SW california

happydad wrote:

mitchg95 wrote:or a red tank peewee
i would build it myself but i tend to start a project, get board after a few hours and move on to a new one. Its a mean cycle :'(

mitchg95: what part of the country is "lakewood" in. how would you want to handle shipping or would you want someone to build at your place? or maybe a partial build, then you assemble??

happydad

SW california

in colorado, id pay shipping and built to the point of final assembly and i would like to cover the model as that is my favorite part

p.s. the engine in my profile pic would be sitting in the plane
i have the radio gear

mitchg95 wrote:or a red tank peewee
i would build it myself but i tend to start a project, get board after a few hours and move on to a new one. Its a mean cycle :'(

Mitch!

C'mon man! That Gnat is an all sheet build with some Ply and balsa stock you could knock that thing out in an evening. Don't sell yourself short!

You can do it Mitch!

[quote="cribbs74"]

mitchg95 wrote:or a red tank peewee
i would build it myself but i tend to start a project, get board after a few hours and move on to a new one. Its a mean cycle :'(

Mitch!

C'mon man! That Gnat is an all sheet build with some Ply and balsa stock you could knock that thing out in an evening. Don't sell yourself short!

You can do it Mitch![/quote

lol, ill have to try it. jus hope it does not end up in the skeleton pile lol

mitchg95 wrote:

happydad wrote:

mitchg95 wrote:or a red tank peewee
i would build it myself but i tend to start a project, get board after a few hours and move on to a new one. Its a mean cycle :'(

mitchg95: what part of the country is "lakewood" in. how would you want to handle shipping or would you want someone to build at your place? or maybe a partial build, then you assemble??

happydad

SW california

in colorado, id pay shipping and built to the point of final assembly and i would like to cover the model as that is my favorite part

p.s. the engine in my profile pic would be sitting in the plane
i have the radio gear

i'm willing. let me look at the list of materials and get back to you. sunday is fathers day so maybe monday. i have a lot of wood and plywood of all thicknesses so i may have everything except thin hinges or maybe you would use monokote hinges. i do. cheap and easy to make and put on.
what kind of radio do you have? just curious. i downloaded the plan, but i will have to blowup, cut and paste to get fullsize, and i didn't see any ruler or lengths on the plan in my quick look.

p.s. covering all balsa is tricky. warping is common.

HD

mitchg95 wrote:http://www.outerzone.co.uk/plan_details.asp?ID=1336
this looks like a great model for teedee .010 power i would trade a parts .049 engine if someone could build it for me...
on the other note, has any one here have previous experiance with a single channel model airplane?

forgot to mention a key word to single channel control: FLYAWAY. no control for engine speed and elevator so...

HD

[quote="mitchg95"]

cribbs74 wrote:

mitchg95 wrote:or a red tank peewee
i would build it myself but i tend to start a project, get board after a few hours and move on to a new one. Its a mean cycle :'(

Mitch!

C'mon man! That Gnat is an all sheet build with some Ply and balsa stock you could knock that thing out in an evening. Don't sell yourself short!

You can do it Mitch![/quote

lol, ill have to try it. jus hope it does not end up in the skeleton pile lol

cribbs74: i agree with you, but just offering help if he wants it.

edit: 8:11p.m. looks like i have all the wood both balsa and ply. wood you want soft or hard or appropriate for where it is used? btw i also have a large supply of small light weight batteries, 4, 5 and 6cell 2/3AAA 200mAhr 4.8volt, 6volt and 7.2volt batteries. cheap.

HD

happydad wrote:

mitchg95 wrote:

happydad wrote:

mitchg95 wrote:or a red tank peewee
i would build it myself but i tend to start a project, get board after a few hours and move on to a new one. Its a mean cycle :'(

mitchg95: what part of the country is "lakewood" in. how would you want to handle shipping or would you want someone to build at your place? or maybe a partial build, then you assemble??

happydad

SW california

in colorado, id pay shipping and built to the point of final assembly and i would like to cover the model as that is my favorite part

p.s. the engine in my profile pic would be sitting in the plane
i have the radio gear

i'm willing. let me look at the list of materials and get back to you. sunday is fathers day so maybe monday. i have a lot of wood and plywood of all thicknesses so i may have everything except thin hinges or maybe you would use monokote hinges. i do. cheap and easy to make and put on.
what kind of radio do you have? just curious. i downloaded the plan, but i will have to blowup, cut and paste to get fullsize, and i didn't see any ruler or lengths on the plan in my quick look.

p.s. covering all balsa is tricky. warping is common.

HD

cool thanks HD, i have a couple 8g servos and im thinking a reciever like the ar600 or something smaller

mitchg95 wrote:

happydad wrote:

mitchg95 wrote:

happydad wrote:

mitchg95 wrote:or a red tank peewee
i would build it myself but i tend to start a project, get board after a few hours and move on to a new one. Its a mean cycle :'(

mitchg95: what part of the country is "lakewood" in. how would you want to handle shipping or would you want someone to build at your place? or maybe a partial build, then you assemble??

happydad

SW california

in colorado, id pay shipping and built to the point of final assembly and i would like to cover the model as that is my favorite part

p.s. the engine in my profile pic would be sitting in the plane
i have the radio gear

i'm willing. let me look at the list of materials and get back to you. sunday is fathers day so maybe monday. i have a lot of wood and plywood of all thicknesses so i may have everything except thin hinges or maybe you would use monokote hinges. i do. cheap and easy to make and put on.
what kind of radio do you have? just curious. i downloaded the plan, but i will have to blowup, cut and paste to get fullsize, and i didn't see any ruler or lengths on the plan in my quick look.

p.s. covering all balsa is tricky. warping is common.

HD

cool thanks HD, i have a couple 8g servos and im thinking a reciever like the ar600 or something smaller

i just got 2 - ar6100e off ebay for $7.xx each. 2.4GHz DSM2 only. 6 channel weigh 40grams i think.
anyway rx + 2 - 3.7gm. servos=.5ox. 4cell 4.8volt 200mAhr battery is 1ounce.

HD

happydad wrote:

mitchg95 wrote:

happydad wrote:

mitchg95 wrote:

happydad wrote:

mitchg95 wrote:or a red tank peewee
i would build it myself but i tend to start a project, get board after a few hours and move on to a new one. Its a mean cycle :'(

mitchg95: what part of the country is "lakewood" in. how would you want to handle shipping or would you want someone to build at your place? or maybe a partial build, then you assemble??

happydad

SW california

in colorado, id pay shipping and built to the point of final assembly and i would like to cover the model as that is my favorite part

p.s. the engine in my profile pic would be sitting in the plane
i have the radio gear

i'm willing. let me look at the list of materials and get back to you. sunday is fathers day so maybe monday. i have a lot of wood and plywood of all thicknesses so i may have everything except thin hinges or maybe you would use monokote hinges. i do. cheap and easy to make and put on.
what kind of radio do you have? just curious. i downloaded the plan, but i will have to blowup, cut and paste to get fullsize, and i didn't see any ruler or lengths on the plan in my quick look.

p.s. covering all balsa is tricky. warping is common.

HD

cool thanks HD, i have a couple 8g servos and im thinking a reciever like the ar600 or something smaller

i just got 2 - ar6100e off ebay for $7.xx each. 2.4GHz DSM2 only. 6 channel weigh 40grams i think.
anyway rx + 2 - 3.7gm. servos=.5ox. 4cell 4.8volt 200mAhr battery is 1ounce.

HD

would that be to heavy?

happydad: which would you want if you are building this plane? Redtank peewee, good compression rtr (ready to run) or a .049 parts engine with a white backplate for an external fuel tank

[quote="happydad"]

mitchg95 wrote:

cribbs74 wrote:

mitchg95 wrote:or a red tank peewee
i would build it myself but i tend to start a project, get board after a few hours and move on to a new one. Its a mean cycle :'(

Mitch!

C'mon man! That Gnat is an all sheet build with some Ply and balsa stock you could knock that thing out in an evening. Don't sell yourself short!

You can do it Mitch![/quote

lol, ill have to try it. jus hope it does not end up in the skeleton pile lol

cribbs74: i agree with you, but just offering help if he wants it.

edit: 8:11p.m. looks like i have all the wood both balsa and ply. wood you want soft or hard or appropriate for where it is used? btw i also have a large supply of small light weight batteries, 4, 5 and 6cell 2/3AAA 200mAhr 4.8volt, 6volt and 7.2volt batteries. cheap.

HD

as long as the model is built strong, go ahead use either soft or hard or medium or what ever the plans call for , also can you add elevator to this?

[quote="mitchg95"]

happydad wrote:

mitchg95 wrote:

cribbs74 wrote:

mitchg95 wrote:or a red tank peewee
i would build it myself but i tend to start a project, get board after a few hours and move on to a new one. Its a mean cycle :'(

Mitch!

C'mon man! That Gnat is an all sheet build with some Ply and balsa stock you could knock that thing out in an evening. Don't sell yourself short!

You can do it Mitch![/quote

lol, ill have to try it. jus hope it does not end up in the skeleton pile lol

cribbs74: i agree with you, but just offering help if he wants it.

edit: 8:11p.m. looks like i have all the wood both balsa and ply. wood you want soft or hard or appropriate for where it is used? btw i also have a large supply of small light weight batteries, 4, 5 and 6cell 2/3AAA 200mAhr 4.8volt, 6volt and 7.2volt batteries. cheap.

HD

as long as the model is built strong, go ahead use either soft or hard or medium or what ever the plans call for , also can you add elevator to this?

mitchg95: when i get to that point we can discuss size of rudder and elevator surfaces. when i downsized a 2meter sailplane to 1meter wingspan i found i had way too much control surface and had to reduce the moveable area. it was nice to have dual-rate controls in those days.

happydad

[quote="happydad"]

mitchg95 wrote:

happydad wrote:

mitchg95 wrote:

cribbs74 wrote:

mitchg95 wrote:or a red tank peewee
i would build it myself but i tend to start a project, get board after a few hours and move on to a new one. Its a mean cycle :'(

Mitch!

C'mon man! That Gnat is an all sheet build with some Ply and balsa stock you could knock that thing out in an evening. Don't sell yourself short!

You can do it Mitch![/quote

lol, ill have to try it. jus hope it does not end up in the skeleton pile lol

cribbs74: i agree with you, but just offering help if he wants it.

edit: 8:11p.m. looks like i have all the wood both balsa and ply. wood you want soft or hard or appropriate for where it is used? btw i also have a large supply of small light weight batteries, 4, 5 and 6cell 2/3AAA 200mAhr 4.8volt, 6volt and 7.2volt batteries. cheap.

HD

as long as the model is built strong, go ahead use either soft or hard or medium or what ever the plans call for , also can you add elevator to this?

mitchg95: when i get to that point we can discuss size of rudder and elevator surfaces. when i downsized a 2meter sailplane to 1meter wingspan i found i had way too much control surface and had to reduce the moveable area. it was nice to have dual-rate controls in those days.

happydad

thanks so much, i cant wait this looks like a neat plane for sure

will a Hitec HS-55 servo work?

mitchg95 wrote:will a Hitec HS-55 servo work?

mitchg95: here is the progress so far. all wood parts including a little extra 1/16in. balsa for fuselage sheeting.


note weight: 1.5ounces



and a look at the fuselage with a couple of the bulkheads loose until we decide where they go to fit and balance the radio. NOTE: no landing gear discussed yet.

happydad

Good work HD,

And quick too!! Surely with 2ch micro gear a .010 will pull it around. The wingspan on that plan is scary!!!!!

cribbs74 wrote:Good work HD,

And quick too!! Surely with 2ch micro gear a .010 will pull it around. The wingspan on that plan is scary!!!!!

the designer of the Gnat says to "start" with an 8inch wingspan and trim as necessay for stability, but not less than 7 1/2inches. here is the latest update with part of the bottom side sheeted and my 6 channel 2.4GHz RX, 4.4gram and 2 - 9gram servos and my 4.8volt 220mAhr 1ounce battery. total weight so far without landing gear is 3.4ounces. allowing .5ounce for the .010, (i think mitchg95 said .5ounce), will be 3.9ounces.



edit: 9:40p.m. p.s. i am making templates of all the Gnat parts on 1/8inch basswood. ply is getting too expensive. after i clean up and sand smooth the templates they will be available for forum members to borrow. as long as they trace parts and do not cut parts with the templates.

happydad

thanks HD, the plane is looking great the landing gear would be a good idea

i recieved the Gnat from Happy Dad on the 16th, i love this thing it is absolutly awesome
i covered in monokote and econokote in with white wings and elevator, with a black fuselage
it has 1'' rubber tires up front, and a 1/2'' rubber tire in the back for a tail wheel
2, 3.7g micro servos, cox battery pack, and a micro 6 channel receiver
i do not know what the auw is yet as i am still looking for my digital scale
here are some pics

Nice, I hope your eyes are better than mine!

lol, thanks Indra. I might maiden this next monday

mitchg95 wrote:lol, thanks Indra. I might maiden this next monday

Bring the camera!