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Bernies Black Springs
John Goddard Tue Jan 31, 2012 4:23 am
I'm sure most of you guys are far too manly to be bothered about starting springs but for those of us that are
lacking 'the minerals' and need some assistance Bernie is doing Black springs for your Tee Dee.
It looks very fetching and sits equally well on the 049 or 051.
lacking 'the minerals' and need some assistance Bernie is doing Black springs for your Tee Dee.
It looks very fetching and sits equally well on the 049 or 051.
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nitroairplane Tue Jan 31, 2012 6:59 am
Cool John 
I only really use the springs on my .010 and tiny tiny diesels.
I only really use the springs on my .010 and tiny tiny diesels.
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Cribbs74 Tue Jan 31, 2012 7:05 am
Is that the Tarno John? I may get a couple of springs myself as the TD's require more flips than a reedie!
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nitroairplane Tue Jan 31, 2012 7:12 am
Tee dee are are harder to start as we have higher conp head and usually a smaller prop so less flywheel for starting.
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John Goddard Tue Jan 31, 2012 8:44 am
cribbs74 wrote:Is that the Tarno John? I may get a couple of springs myself as the TD's require more flips than a reedie!
Cue Ray Stevens from The Streak Voice...
Yeah ahdid
Not sure I like it Ron it looks kinda Soviet. Which Anna Kournikova, Maria Sharapova etc isn't nescesarlly a bad thing
sorry I digress where was I.skinny blondes lycra cough cough....?
If you've ever seen what we used to call a Mini Dead Stick (MDS engine) you'd see what I mean, it's not
the thing of beauty that a Cox is and looks a bit 'orrible 'anging off it.
As for Springs once you've had one Trust me none of you will want to go back to that flipping lark....
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Ivanhoe Tue Jan 31, 2012 9:11 am
Springs? they'd get in the way of my electric starter!! (Sorry, Indra!)
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SuperDave Tue Jan 31, 2012 9:23 am
I always thought flipping props was a manly art and I will continue to be a practionioner of that art. (Besides I don't like the marks springs leave on crankcase snouts) 
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RknRusty Tue Jan 31, 2012 9:33 am
I too, in my old age, have had to go on the spring. My TD is much more cooperative now. My hands and fingers have led a hard life... I suppose it was time.
It's a rather mild spring compared to the heavy duty Bee springs.
It's a rather mild spring compared to the heavy duty Bee springs.
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Ivanhoe Tue Jan 31, 2012 10:14 am
RknRusty wrote:I too, in my old age, have had to go on the spring. My TD is much more cooperative now. My hands and fingers have led a hard life... I suppose it was time.
It's a rather mild spring compared to the heavy duty Bee springs.
That's my problem, since coming back to modeling I've found the only skill that hasn't come back is flipping a prop, I seem to have lost the knack in my old age, springs and starters are a necessity now I'm afraid
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Cox International Tue Jan 31, 2012 10:24 am
We also have them in silver for those that prefer them un-plated. Not listed but a note on the order to change for silver will do the trick.
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nitroairplane Tue Jan 31, 2012 12:03 pm
Spring starters are far more evil to the fingers than flip starting!
But electrics starter?
Serious.
But electrics starter?
Serious.
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Cribbs74 Tue Jan 31, 2012 12:03 pm
John Goddard wrote:cribbs74 wrote:Is that the Tarno John? I may get a couple of springs myself as the TD's require more flips than a reedie!
Cue Ray Stevens from The Streak Voice...
Yeah ahdid
Not sure I like it Ron it looks kinda Soviet. Which Anna Kournikova, Maria Sharapova etc isn't nescesarlly a bad thing
sorry I digress where was I.skinny blondes lycra cough cough....?
If you've ever seen what we used to call a Mini Dead Stick (MDS engine) you'd see what I mean, it's not
the thing of beauty that a Cox is and looks a bit 'orrible 'anging off it.
As for Springs once you've had one Trust me none of you will want to go back to that flipping lark....
It does look a tad bulky, how does it perform? You could always hide it away in a cowl
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nitroairplane Tue Jan 31, 2012 12:30 pm
I believe Bob Davis also sells them they also fit Norvels!
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Cox International Tue Jan 31, 2012 12:38 pm
nitroairplane wrote:I believe Bob Davis also sells them they also fit Norvels!
Yes, for $14.95
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nitroairplane Tue Jan 31, 2012 12:40 pm
Yeah lol.
Do you share production ever?
I see a lot of similar products
Do you share production ever?
I see a lot of similar products
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Cox International Tue Jan 31, 2012 12:48 pm
No, we do not share production with Davis.
We used to buy the following items fr. DD:
Heavy duty cranks
Diesel head conversions
Due to insufficient margins and too high retail costs we decided to run our own productions.
The TD springs are our own invention, the Heavy Duty (Killer Bee) cranks are from OEM Cox drawings and the diesel heads are a DD clone (unintended but a long story).
We used to buy the following items fr. DD:
Heavy duty cranks
Diesel head conversions
Due to insufficient margins and too high retail costs we decided to run our own productions.
The TD springs are our own invention, the Heavy Duty (Killer Bee) cranks are from OEM Cox drawings and the diesel heads are a DD clone (unintended but a long story).
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nitroairplane Tue Jan 31, 2012 12:51 pm
Cox International wrote:No, we do not share production with Davis.
We used to buy the following items fr. DD:
Heavy duty cranks
Diesel head conversions
Due to insufficient margins and too high retail costs we decided to run our own productions.
The TD springs are our own invention, the Heavy Duty (Killer Bee) cranks are from OEM Cox drawings and the diesel heads are a DD clone (unintended but a long story).
Oh ok I would have thought that unintended "similarity" would have gotten you into trouble with Davis.
But cool thanks for answering the question.
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Cox International Tue Jan 31, 2012 12:56 pm
No, there is nothing that Davis can do about this aside from being peeved (rightfully so).
Anyone can copy any of our products as well and there is nothing that we can do about it either.
Anyone can copy any of our products as well and there is nothing that we can do about it either.
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nitroairplane Tue Jan 31, 2012 1:00 pm
Many have but not really selling them.
Especially those surestart choke tube carbs many have built those.
Especially those surestart choke tube carbs many have built those.
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gcb Tue Jan 31, 2012 1:54 pm
Nice looking spring setup. I generally use larger props so I don't yet need one, but when I do I think I will get a black one.
I do have a couple of NORVEL springs that came with the Big Mig Startup. The spring fits in a groove on the plastic mount and hooks into a hole drilled in the Big Mig (Startup) mounting lug. Big Migs not set up as Startups could not use the spring. They may have changed that in later runs. That was in pre-Revlite days.
In any case, nice addition to the Tee Dee line.
George
I do have a couple of NORVEL springs that came with the Big Mig Startup. The spring fits in a groove on the plastic mount and hooks into a hole drilled in the Big Mig (Startup) mounting lug. Big Migs not set up as Startups could not use the spring. They may have changed that in later runs. That was in pre-Revlite days.
In any case, nice addition to the Tee Dee line.
George
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