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25" Ringmaster
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25" Ringmaster
So I got a 25" wingspan Ringmaster kit (unbranded, engine not specified), which is actually just a downsized .35 Ringmaster, including the plans.
Will it fly well with a new TD .049? I also have a TD .09 but it looks too big for that Ring.
Mind you, I'm not really a CL guy so this might be a classic stupid question..lol...
Will it fly well with a new TD .049? I also have a TD .09 but it looks too big for that Ring.
Mind you, I'm not really a CL guy so this might be a classic stupid question..lol...
Arthur Neto- Beginner Poster
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Re: 25" Ringmaster
I'm flying my 24" Baby Ringmaster with a Bee engine on it and it will do the full Beginner's pattern (too bad I can't). So a TeeDee on a 25" wingspan should be awesome.
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Re: 25" Ringmaster
[quote="batjac"]I'm flying my 24" Baby Ringmaster with a Bee engine on it and it will do the full Beginner's pattern (too bad I can't). So a TeeDee on a 25" wingspan should be awesome. /quote]

Thanks!


Arthur Neto- Beginner Poster
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Re: 25" Ringmaster
Art,
Here is the website of the kit that you may have?
https://willynillies.com/shop/ols/products/jr-skylark-250-beta-kit-pre-order-now-limited-quantities-available-shipping-3rd-week-of-december
Willy Nillies suggests for power is:
Cox Baby Bee, Golden Bee, Black Widow or TD .049 glow engines and prop
Also, here is the link to the RC Group website where the owner (Doug) of Willy Nillies posts information on the kit.
https://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthread.php?3541117-1-2a-Ringmaster-by-WillyNillies-com
Years ago, I had a Sterling kit of the 1/2A Ring Master (21 inch wing span) and it flew well with a Cox Baby Bee.
It flew on very short U-control lines (25 feet) and learned how to flight it first before doing stunts with it.
I did learn on other planes to fly U-control first, like the Lil' Wizard, Lil Satin, Jumpin' Bean to name a few.
Later on, I (my dad) changed it from the Baby Bee to a Black Widow and started to do stunts with the plane.
From there I moved up to the bigger U-control planes with Fox and McCoy stunt engines. Engines I still have to this day.
My Refurbished McCoy 35 stunt engine (my dad bought for me at the age of 15), that I rebuilt and encased -- for my dad (RIP)



Here is the website of the kit that you may have?
https://willynillies.com/shop/ols/products/jr-skylark-250-beta-kit-pre-order-now-limited-quantities-available-shipping-3rd-week-of-december
Willy Nillies suggests for power is:
Cox Baby Bee, Golden Bee, Black Widow or TD .049 glow engines and prop
Also, here is the link to the RC Group website where the owner (Doug) of Willy Nillies posts information on the kit.
https://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthread.php?3541117-1-2a-Ringmaster-by-WillyNillies-com
Years ago, I had a Sterling kit of the 1/2A Ring Master (21 inch wing span) and it flew well with a Cox Baby Bee.
It flew on very short U-control lines (25 feet) and learned how to flight it first before doing stunts with it.
I did learn on other planes to fly U-control first, like the Lil' Wizard, Lil Satin, Jumpin' Bean to name a few.
Later on, I (my dad) changed it from the Baby Bee to a Black Widow and started to do stunts with the plane.
From there I moved up to the bigger U-control planes with Fox and McCoy stunt engines. Engines I still have to this day.
My Refurbished McCoy 35 stunt engine (my dad bought for me at the age of 15), that I rebuilt and encased -- for my dad (RIP)



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Re: 25" Ringmaster
Art,
Riley Keller just posted a video of him flying his completed 1/2A Ring Master.
He is a little new at U-control like you.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p5YtTLUfQAw&feature=youtu.be
Here is Riley set up (comments):
Finally got my Willy Nillies 1/2A ringmaster in the air! I'm new at control line but found the ringmaster to be quite easy to handle with a babe bee, 6x3, and 35ft lines. I set the elevator pushrod to "beginner", next time out I'll have it in the "less beginner" hole in the control horn and I'll bring a 5x3 to try.
Happy Flying!
Riley Keller just posted a video of him flying his completed 1/2A Ring Master.
He is a little new at U-control like you.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p5YtTLUfQAw&feature=youtu.be
Here is Riley set up (comments):
Finally got my Willy Nillies 1/2A ringmaster in the air! I'm new at control line but found the ringmaster to be quite easy to handle with a babe bee, 6x3, and 35ft lines. I set the elevator pushrod to "beginner", next time out I'll have it in the "less beginner" hole in the control horn and I'll bring a 5x3 to try.
Happy Flying!
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Re: 25" Ringmaster
sosam117 wrote:Art,
Riley Keller just posted a video of him flying his completed 1/2A Ring Master.
He is a little new at U-control like you.
Happy Flying!
Awesome! Thanks!
Arthur Neto- Beginner Poster
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Re: 25" Ringmaster
Looking Good Art !! she should fly like a champ

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Re: 25" Ringmaster
Looks like a beauty!
One more thing. (Question?)
Does the rudder have right (turn) in it?
I did not see that in the photo?
The rudder should kick out to the right (when looking from the rear of the plane)
With the right rudder, it will force the plane to keep the lines tight.
I also put in right thrust on the engine.
Remember, the prop gives you left thrust and up thrust.
I never worried about the up thrust.
Never had a plane come in on me with those adjustments (even on a windy day).
It's an old U-control practice. Some kit makers actually show that on their plans.
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Re: 25" Ringmaster
I hate to disagree so I will say this. Rudder offset can be beneficial and it can also cause problems. It can cause excessive drag and yaw. Lead out position is a better way to correct tension problems, then engine offset, then lastly rudder offset. I would fly it as is and see what it needs. Lead out position is fixed on your model, so hang it by the leadouts and see if the nose points slightly down. If it does you are probably good.
Rudder offset has it’s place, but it shouldn’t be your go to when trimming planes. I only own one plane out of around 15 or so that has rudder offset. It definitely needed it.
If all you plan on doing is fly in circles then offset the rudder.... If you are past that and stunt flying then trim as needed.
Rudder offset has it’s place, but it shouldn’t be your go to when trimming planes. I only own one plane out of around 15 or so that has rudder offset. It definitely needed it.
If all you plan on doing is fly in circles then offset the rudder.... If you are past that and stunt flying then trim as needed.
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