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my first cl plane!
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my first cl plane!
heres the little beauty about a week ago a package from fred arrived in the box of engines and props i found this a black hawk models 2 for1 lil combat kit here's the finished product
ps i painted it RED to MAKE IT GO FASTER!
than jacks which is blue he has a black widow on his
so today i'm going to fly it at the cricket oval any tips' n 'tricks?
ps i painted it RED to MAKE IT GO FASTER!
than jacks which is blue he has a black widow on his
so today i'm going to fly it at the cricket oval any tips' n 'tricks?
cox24711- Platinum Member
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Greg,
Does the engine have any offset? Hard to tell from the picture. You want it to pull away from you when you fly.
What are you planning on using for lines and leadouts?
Ron
Does the engine have any offset? Hard to tell from the picture. You want it to pull away from you when you fly.
What are you planning on using for lines and leadouts?
Ron
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Also Greg, I would recommend turning the bellcrank around to save tangling up with the pushrod during up elevator. Also sharpening up the bends in the pushrod to a full 90° will give more reliable & freer movement.
I see you're still trying to trick us with the back-to-front photos
I see you're still trying to trick us with the back-to-front photos
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Oldenginerod wrote:Also Greg, I would recommend turning the bellcrank around to save tangling up with the pushrod during up elevator. Also sharpening up the bends in the pushrod to a full 90° will give more reliable & freer movement.
I see you're still trying to trick us with the back-to-front photos
I thought that all of you folks from the "land down under" rigged your bell cranks that way.
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You really should contact Col to help you with your first flight.
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Good idea. Those Bats are Not easy planes to fly, especially if the engines are at less than full power. Luckily the instructions recommended C/G(1" from LE)is too far forward, so they'll be slow to turn and will barely do loops even if you use the whole sky. It could not even remotely fly a combat match like that.gossie wrote:You really should contact Col to help you with your first flight.
As-is, however, they will fly flat laps pretty easily. Launching is a bit tricky. Make sure your pit mad holds it with the lines tight, pointed up and out. Do not toss, just have him let go and step out of the circle immediately. Wayne let go of mine today and it immediately flipped over and missed him and my first full lap was inverted. Lol. It was a real crowd pleaser, but dangerous and unplanned. So hold the elevator neutral while launching.
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Greg
From looking at other posts I have seen that the other bats have a tilted tails and I see that yours don't have a tilted tail, maybe you should check with rusty that the tilted tail is right.
Jack
From looking at other posts I have seen that the other bats have a tilted tails and I see that yours don't have a tilted tail, maybe you should check with rusty that the tilted tail is right.
Jack
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And did you use anything under the paint or did you just spray onto wood?
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Here's a picture of Rusty's Bats. See how much the tail fin is angled? The plan makes it pretty clear where it should go.
This is mine. Also, for Greg, note which way the bellcrank is pointing.
Jack, I think Greg said he used dope under the paint. Otherwise, the fuel will disolve the paint and soak into the balsa. Even still, if it's normal spray can paint it will need to dry for a couple of weeks or the fuel will just wash it off. I can guarantee you, you will spill fuel and you will end up with a mess on the plane. The important thing is to clean it off as soon as you can. Once you run the engine and get castor oil on the paint it will be hard to make more paint stick.
Rod.
This is mine. Also, for Greg, note which way the bellcrank is pointing.
Jack, I think Greg said he used dope under the paint. Otherwise, the fuel will disolve the paint and soak into the balsa. Even still, if it's normal spray can paint it will need to dry for a couple of weeks or the fuel will just wash it off. I can guarantee you, you will spill fuel and you will end up with a mess on the plane. The important thing is to clean it off as soon as you can. Once you run the engine and get castor oil on the paint it will be hard to make more paint stick.
Rod.
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I just had another look at the picture of Greg's plane. The push rod is in the hole closest to the elevator. That will make it really hard to keep steady. It should be in the hole furthest away (the very top one) so that the controls work a bit slower. That will make it easier to learn.
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yes i have just put them on i did'n fly yesterday because it was too windy and also one of the old guys from the club is going to help meCribbs74 wrote:Greg,
Does the engine have any offset? Hard to tell from the picture. You want it to pull away from you when you fly.
What are you planning on using for lines and leadouts?
Ron
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on the engine don't have any offset because it didn't say about any in the plans do i put any offset on?
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jack the a tail is tiltedAUjack2003 wrote:Greg
From looking at other posts I have seen that the other bats have a tilted tails and I see that yours don't have a tilted tail, maybe you should check with rusty that the tilted tail is right.
Jack
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I am not too sure here about all of this, but I have to ask. Are you planning on flying in a clockwise circle? To me, the plane does indeed look set-up to fly that way. If so, the tail does appear to be angled outwards to the correct size then. This is of course by the pictures as I see them.
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Oh, and also, I do agree with the other post and flip the bellcrank over. Would be easier and better for control.
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yes colck wise and the tail is angled sight ly like the purple one maby moreNEW222 wrote:I am not too sure here about all of this, but I have to ask. Are you planning on flying in a clockwise circle? To me, the plane does indeed look set-up to fly that way. If so, the tail does appear to be angled outwards to the correct size then. This is of course by the pictures as I see them.
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ok ill do that !Oldenginerod wrote:I just had another look at the picture of Greg's plane. The push rod is in the hole closest to the elevator. That will make it really hard to keep steady. It should be in the hole furthest away (the very top one) so that the controls work a bit slower. That will make it easier to learn.
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hey jack mines going to bee faster than yours!
(well i hope)
(well i hope)
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year thats what im doing hes going to be my launchergossie wrote:You really should contact Col to help you with your first flight.
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NEW222 wrote:I am not too sure here about all of this, but I have to ask. Are you planning on flying in a clockwise circle? To me, the plane does indeed look set-up to fly that way. If so, the tail does appear to be angled outwards to the correct size then. This is of course by the pictures as I see them.
Pic is mirror image.
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cox24711 wrote:on the engine don't have any offset because it didn't say about any in the plans do i put any offset on?
I'll defer to Rusty as I see his don't have much (if any) either.
If it were mine I would, but it may not need it.
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Pack some washers, or make some wedges prior to flight day. Washers could be used under the inside mounting ears, but the wedges are more secure.
Phil
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that idea bring them just incase
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cox24711 wrote:that idea bring them just incase
Might not need them, but they will be in your box if you do. Bring some extra screws too. Drop one in the grass an there is no finding it.
Phil
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